Talk:Ĥ

OK, now we got fun. The lower-case character appears incorrectly (as h-umlaut) in normal type but correctly if you put &lt;big&gt; tags around it: Phil 18:03, Dec 11, 2003 (UTC)
 * normal: &#293; &#293; &#293;
 * &lt;big&gt;: &#293; &#293; &#293;


 * So it's an artifact of the way my browser is rendering the letter, and if I change the font size it makes more or less of the circumflex visible peeking out from behind the previous line. I'll get me coat. Phil 18:10, Dec 11, 2003 (UTC)

ĥ=x
I was wondering, how did they get the ĥ character to represent the X sound? I don't mind that it does, it's just that it is weird. Shouldn't it be a K with a ^ above it? That makes more sense I think. Is there something like it in Cyrillic that caused the sound to be represented this way? 76.188.26.92 22:05, 15 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Letter X and similar symbols are used in IPA to represent sounds like h in house, not like x in x-ray. Admiral Norton 15:23, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


 * No, it's ch like in scotish "loch", not h.--88.101.76.122 19:06, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I know, I know, but my point is it's not related in any way to the letter X (like Sphynx). Admiral Norton 22:19, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I think that 76.188.26.92's point was that it's pronounced in the same place where k is. (I think that reason for choosing ĥ was that many languages who have x sound use "ch" for it in writing and this is just a shorter way to write it.)--88.101.76.122 08:15, 23 September 2007 (UTC)


 * In Cyrillic the letter for this sound is just Х (like X "ex" in Latin script). Slavik IVANOV 03:38, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

This all goes back to the Greek alphabet. The original Greek alphabet used versions of the inherited Phoenician letters. Later it was found necessary to add some more letters, and X was one of these. In one version of the Greek Alphabet (the ancestor of the classical and modern Greek alphabets and also of the Cyrillic alphabet) X was used to represent the IPA /x/ sound (like the Scottish loch); in another version, which became the ancestor of the Roman alphabet, X was used to represent /ks/. --rossb 23:37, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Ĥ=kxh
Khx 2A0B:6204:F2F8:6D00:E1AA:BB35:6B3D:1DA7 (talk) 14:07, 3 January 2023 (UTC)