Talk:Široka Kula massacre

Dane Serdar
If Dane Serdar was tried in absentia, retried and then acquitted because "none of 12 witnesses could confirm" his involvement, that means, by the jurisprudence of any civilised nation, that he is considered exonerated. Am I wrong here?? Quis separabit? 22:53, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not a lawyer nor a native speaker of English. If I used a wrong term please change it. The legal system in croatia allows trial in absentia but it also guarantees a new trial if the convicted person requests so immediately upon his/her arrest or extradition (whichever applies) to Croatia. Immediately upon such a request, presiding judge of the court which convicted him/her is legally required to nullify the original trial (or its part pertaining to the individual in question, if more than one person was tried then). If the new trial does not result in a conviction, the individual's criminal record will contain no mention of the conviction made in absentia. Hope the explanation helps to determine which expression is correct here.--Tomobe03 (talk) 23:28, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Question

 * "(RSK) police estimated that the bodies of approximately forty Croat civilians were thrown into the pit." (as per ). so if 41 people were killed in the Široka Kula massacre, then only one was a Serb. Therefore shouldn't "some Serbs" (killed) be "one Serb"?? Quis separabit?  22:48, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

The Knin District Court (RSK at the time) judge quoted Gračac police report saying "estimated more than 40 bodies of Croats". (Mind you, the report also says that nobody had descended into the pit at the time yet to inspect its contents in 1992 when the report was drawn up.) It is undoubtedly determined that at least four victims were Serbs (Rakić and his three children). The latest count of 41 victims (per cited HRT report) hinges on retrieved bodies (the Golubnjača Pit is quite deep) and witness testimonies because some victims were thrown into burning houses and it is not entirely impossible that the number of victims is final. Also the RSK police clearly says "estimated" which does not really allow one to interpret their statement as "exactly 40". They may have been wrong, there may have been less than 40, and there may have been more than 41 victims overall - The presented info on 41 victims total (including 4 Serbs - Rakić's wife was reportedly a Croat woman) is what reliable sources claim right now. To claim anything beyond that would be WP:CRYSTAL or WP:OR.--Tomobe03 (talk) 23:17, 26 October 2013 (UTC)