Talk:Župa

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The edits made by 62.178.130.145 are the following:
 * The title Xpiani was used by Paul the Deacon in his Historia Langobardorum for Christians. He mentioned also that Slavs had many ships. The title župljan means "member of župa".
 * The connection between the term Xpiani and župans is unsourced. The mention of Slavs having many ships has no importance to the article. The words župljan or župnik are Slovenian and Croatian terms for Protestant parish clergy.


 * A manuscript on Glagolitic alphabet from the year 1250 interpreted the official title of a Župan so: that a Duke and the first Župan wanted to be grateful to the Church of St. John in Povlja on the island of Brač, and they went on the day of St. John in the Church of St. John, and vowed that after his term of his office he will leave his office again to God and to the people, so this official title was created to remember on this day of Saint John.
 * Although I don't have access to the source, the manuscript is evidently mentioning a Duke and a Župan and the day of St. John, but that the title was created to commemorate Saint John is pure OR.


 * The Church of Saint John in Povlja was an early Basilica from the 5th Century, built during Theodosius II, one of his law was: "If the owner of the land on which an aspirant to the clerical office lives and works is unwilling to have him join the clergy, the man may still join the clergy if he pays the poll tax and finds a substitute for his services on the land."Church of Saint John in PovljaImperial law
 * Nonsense about a 5th century basilica, with no connection to župa, which the sources have no mention of.


 * The Župan was elected by the people as a substitute, who should find a substitute for this man, how the law it wanted. This law is without a threat of punishment, called "Sub poena", if someone does not comply to this law.
 * Again, referring to parson, Protestant clergy, with no relevance to this article


 * Tax collection is complicated in Balkan countries.


 * Valentinian I had written to bishops of eastern provinces, informing them that the Council in Illyricum ruled in favor of Homoousian and the Nicene Creed. He commanded that this be preached and its preachers be protected from harm. This was the prerequisite for this title to become famous.
 * Again, pure OR, with no connection to župa.


 * It was not only a question of taxes. The sum to become a qualifying member of the Curia was 300 Solidi. There have been cases in which priests were called by the Curia back into the secular life, even after more than 30 years in a clerical life. Therefore, this law was enacted to prevent difficulties with the Curia. The Council of Illyricum had decided that someone from the clerics was allowed to become presbyter and deacon and not from the Curiales or any other Officer of the Civil Government. Pope Innocent I had also written some letters about this question. Finally, Theodosius bought from the presbytera Flavia Vitalia with 3 golden plates his grave in the near Salona. How she was related to the uncle of the distinguished general John, Flavius Vitalianus, whose mother was a sister of Patriarch Macedonius II of Constantinople, is not entirely clear.
 * Again, nonsense, with no connection to župa.


 * The history of the origin of the title "Župnik", which means Parson, is caused by the chronicle of John of Nikiû, because he described how the above mentioned Flavius Vitalianus was opposed by Marinus, who took all the ships he could find and manned them with a large force of Scythian and Gothic archers and sailed in the direction of Byzantium, but he took to flight and the sailors sailed then to Dalmatia, such way the Croats came to Dalmatia, who are described in the Chronicle of the Priest of Duklja as probably Goths.
 * The connection between John of Nikiû's chronicle and Doclean Chronicle is pure OR, unsourced.
 * Summary of edits: I have searched the internet for any connection put forward by 62.178.130.145, with no hits. The only edit that should stay is the Principality of Littoral Croatia-section. Apart from bad English, and evident OR-language, the user has misinterpreted the Slovenian/Croatian term for Protestant parish clergy with the medieval title, also an extensive Roman history with no connection to the theme takes up most of his inclusions. --Zoupan (talk) 15:47, 9 February 2012 (UTC) Blocked sock:Ajdebre.

Serbian Vojvodina
This section is ridiculous. Srijemska županija (Syrmia County) was part of Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia, as one of its counties (županija), and not of Serbian Vojvodina.

--93.136.135.202 (talk) 08:57, 2 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Fixed, thanks. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 12:23, 2 April 2012 (UTC)