Talk:ʿĀd

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they were in empty quarter not in Hejaz. (unsigned)


 * This article locates them in the traditional Ubar (south of the empty quarter). Hijaz is not mentioned?--Skatewalk 10:58, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

This article should be deleted or severely reformed
Unfortunately most of the information posted in this article is very speculative. Especially the part about the relation to other semitic languages. Since there is no proof that any of the MSAL (modern south arabian languages) are descended from the Adid language. " Mahra and Shahra languages are considered the purest of the Semitic tongues" is based on someones extreme POV. Furthermore, we have no epigraphic evidence of Adid from anywhere. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xevorim (talk • contribs) 15:42, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree entirely. Firstly I would dispute the adjective "pure" in any linguistic sense. Secondly there is no real evidence to link Shahra or Mehri for that matter to Eastern Semitic languages and thirdly it is disputable whether Eblaite was an Eastern semitic language or whether the scribal cuneiform tradition was responsible for the "Eastern semitic" elements evident in the epigraphic corpus attributed to Eblaite.--Wildbe (talk) 20:06, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

This article should be deleted and written from the ground up or at least completely reorganised and limited in content. We just know very little about them. What we do know is what is mentioned in the koran (and perhaps other texts?). We can cite these and perhaps mention that they are often associated with Ubar or something, but even keep it rather short at that. The "information" on pyramids and camels should obviously be removed as well as the part on language. As far as I know, noone really knows anything about the language they spoke or wrote, except that it probably was some kind of semetic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.201.19.63 (talk) 18:22, 1 February 2010 (UTC)


 * They built large buildings and worshiped Orion's belt, is any further evidence required to figure out who 'they' were? Or should is say 'are' ? I hope that at some point in the future there will be enough folks researching anything and everything (every bit of knowledge possible) rather than just settling for scholarly research and elite consensus. Perhaps there is a reason we are conditioned to read what they say and believe it to be the truth without original research. Original research and encyclopedia don't get along very well for obvious reasons. But a majority consensus from a larger group of people than the 'scholars' we are conditioned to believe to be entitled to these areas of research (due to the piece of paper they paid for with time and money and the friends they made along the way to provide them with an aura of this thing you call 'credibility') would be the exception. Perceptions must change in order for this to occur, and religious perceptions are keeping topics like Ād controversial and taboo, limited to specific interest groups. It's similar to how symbols such as the cross, the hexagram, the crescent and star, the swastika, etc. were are not uncommon, even together in ancient artwork. Your perceptions will keep you from looking into any alternative meanings.


 * From my research, and I'm a bit more devoted to researching everything than the average scholar limiting their studies to specific areas, (building a wall and confining their perceptions) the megalithic ruins, whose origins have long been subject to intense debate, are the remenants from another age. At the end of each age (there has been at least three) there is a resetting. This is common knowledge for anybody how has done their homework. If you require a reliable source, I suggest starting with Google and devoting a chunk of your free time to reading everything reserving absolute judgement until you are close to the truth. Whoever this tribe was, they probably built the foundation for the temple in Baalbek along with the pyramids of Egypt, one of the Orion's belts they worshiped. This is common sense to me, and it would be for you if you devote part of your life to research. Another Orion's belt is the up and coming World Trade Center complex. These people are still around. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.14.223.171 (talk) 06:30, 9 January 2012 (UTC)