Talk:Δ-8-Tetrahydrocannabinol

Wiki Education assignment: Psychology Capstone
— Assignment last updated by Hkhan11 (talk) 00:36, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Contaminants
Others with more time may want to incorporate some of the info from this article:

--Timeshifter (talk) 19:09, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Hemp-Derived Delta-8 Skirts Marijuana Laws and Raises Health Concerns. Sep 23, 2022 article by Eric Berger. Kaiser Health News. Excerpts: A study published in the journal Chemical Research in Toxicology last year found lead, mercury, and silicon in delta-8 electronic cigarettes. ... If it were regulated like Massachusetts’ medical and recreational marijuana programs, he said, harmful contaminants could be flagged or removed. ... Christopher Hudalla, chief scientific officer at ProVerde Laboratories, a Massachusetts marijuana and hemp testing company, said he has examined thousands of delta-8 products and all contained contaminants that could be harmful to consumers’ health. ... An analysis of 3Chi delta-8 oil conducted by Hudalla’s firm last year and posted on 3Chi’s website found multiple unidentified compounds that “do not occur naturally” and thus “would not be recommended for human consumption.” Delta-8 oil is still sold on 3Chi’s site. ... To address concerns about delta-8, the federal government should regulate it and make accessing cannabis easier for consumers, said Paul Armentano, deputy director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws.
 * Remember:

--Smokefoot (talk) 19:53, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) WP:SECONDARY, we seek reviews and book references on big topics like this one.
 * 2) We are writing for an international audience. Do you want to hear about regulations from every state in other countries?
 * I don't have time to edit the article. I just wanted to pass on some info. Others will have to dig up the sources used in the article, find further info, etc., etc.
 * These unregulated, or poorly regulated, electronic cigarettes and edibles that are outside the purview of the much more highly regulated cannabis dispensaries in legal states, have a history of dangerous additives and contaminants that is still being researched. See:
 * α-Tocopheryl acetate
 * It follows the path of cigarette additives that were considered GRAS (Generally recognized as safe) as food additives until it was discovered that burning them produced different chemicals that were dangerous, cancerous, etc.. See:
 * List of additives in cigarettes
 * E-cigarettes in general have many problems with additives and contaminants:
 * Electronic cigarette
 * Separating all the sources of contamination is a big task. Some of the delta-8 contaminants are created during its production. Due to unsafe production methods. See the original article in this thread. It's complicated. So, good luck. :) --Timeshifter (talk) 07:01, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

"gas stations, convenience stores and corner markets"
Delta-8-Tetrahydrocannabinol

Currently only mentions head shops, smoke shops, and dispensaries.

But it is also available in "independently owned gas stations, convenience stores and corner markets across the country,". Quote is from article below. There is a convenience store near me that carries a large selection of Delta-8 products.

Delta-8 THC vape firm signs national distribution deal with convenience store group. Published September 8, 2021. --Timeshifter (talk) 05:51, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
 * https://hempindustrydaily.com/delta-8-thc-vape-company-signs-national-distribution-agreement-with-convenience-store-group


 * More recent article. It is from the US FDA. "Content current as of: 05/04/2022":
 * 5 Things to Know about Delta-8 Tetrahydrocannabinol – Delta-8 THC.
 * Excerpt: "These products may be purchased online, as well as at a variety of retailers, including convenience stores and gas stations."
 * --Timeshifter (talk) 23:49, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Subtle, but pretty conventionally strait-laced article there…
It could be called “the Wikipedia Effect,” but “neutrality” tends to fall on the side of convention. It would be good to see things move more back into balance. This is by no means the only article that suffers from the Effect.

In this instance, the excessively cautious tone succeeds in conveying a rather conservative, anti-cannabis, anti-THC message.

Of course, people have different points of view, but this an encyclopedia, seeking respectability. It must strive for true neutrality. Selahw (talk) 05:52, 3 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Please explain how stating that Delta-8-THC is relatively unknown cannabinoid, with a short marketing history and little research conducted on it, is in any way an example of anti-cannabis bias. JoeBo82 (talk) 23:55, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't see any bias. Are we reading the same article? Ashleighhhhh (talk) 18:48, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Unreliable sourcing
why are you repeatedly adding non-WP:MEDRS sources to the article? Bon courage (talk) 04:50, 8 September 2023 (UTC)


 * You removed it the first time as trimming without context so I added it back because there was no trimming involved you just removed the section almost entirelIt's the smallest section of the article. Each study entry hasa single sentence. There is nothing to trim you'd just be removing legitimate peer reviewed studies that have more than 1 citation. For the ones that did not have more than 1 citation to back up the claims I noted citation requested in the article so they can be added per your request. Gettinglit (talk) 05:26, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Please find review articles or other WP:MEDRS; without such sourcing this stuff is undue. There is one review article which was not trimmed. Bon courage (talk) 05:28, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
 * How many peer reviewed, professionally journal published citations would you find acceptable? Each claim had a citation that meets MP:MEDRS some had 2 citations to support the claim. The only thing removing this information does is hurt open access to legitimste scientifically backed, peer reviewed, journal published, accepted, information. Gettinglit (talk) 05:33, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Peer-review is not enough to make a source reliable: please refer to WP:MEDRS, and maybe WP:MEDFAQ and WP:WHYMEDRS for background. Bon courage (talk) 05:35, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
 * One of the citations removed was of a review article? Gettinglit (talk) 21:37, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Removed statement regarding sale in recreational and medical use states
Removed statement concerning sale in areas with regulated recreational and medical use for past 2 years (paraphrasing). Cited source does not address sales or proliferation of delta-8 THC in territories permitting medical or recreational use at all. It does not even mention medical use or recreational use, only its dubious legal status and the patchwork of regulations varying by state (though not associated with laws legalizing or decriminalizing any cannabinoid for recreational or medical use). Dcs002 (talk) 02:15, 24 October 2023 (UTC)


 * The original citations for those statements seemed to have been removed randomly by someone. I have added them back. Gettinglit (talk) 23:59, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Awesome! It's even got a "since" date. Thanks for fixing that. Dcs002 (talk) 05:15, 27 October 2023 (UTC)