Talk:0-6-0

John King Photos
In RICHARD THOMAS HALL AND THE LITTLE RAILWAY OF NAMAQUALAND, Graham Ross states ''The "John King" started work in February 1871. From the photographs it was an unusual looking train engine... and further notes that A considerable number of old photographs of the narrow gauge line are held in the Moffatt Collection (reference MSB 356) in the South African Library, Cape Town, and copies may be obtained from the Manuscripts Section there.'' --NJR_ZA (talk) 15:30, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Passed on to Peter Bagshawe for comment. André Kritzinger 11:56, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I believe the following response from Peter Bagshawe clears things up. André Kritzinger 19:31, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
 * - Original Message -
 * From: Peter Bagshawe
 * To: Kritzinger, Andre H
 * Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:43 PM
 * Subject: RE: Namaqua line


 * Hi Andre,


 * Thanks for bringing this to my attention.


 * I note that the article entry has been marked as “Dubious – discuss”.  I’m not sure what that means, as to me it seems fair and substantiated comment.  The information which backs the entry  is derived from various sources, including RT Hall (the engineer at the time), records held by the National Railway Museum in York, England, and Lilleshall records unearthed by Bob Yate.  Although my book is referenced as the source of this information, it is in fact only a secondary source, its value being that it lists original and prior sources.


 * This is why I query the “dubious” remark!


 * Now to the “Talk” paragraph. First of all, the original source of “John King started work….” is in fact RT Hall, as published in the “Cape Monthly Magazine” in April 1871 and should be reliable.  The statement “From the photographs it was an unusual looking train engine” is however dubious!  I did not use it in my book because of this (I remember that I queried this statement with Graham Ross, and I think (I have a poor memory) he realised he had made an error).  No photos/drawings have been found of the two Lilleshall locos as far as I am aware.  I have been through the Moffatt collection and found none, and it is noticeable that Moffatt didn’t have photos of them in his articles.  I suspect that the “unusual looking train engine” was possibly due to confusion with the Kitson condensers which would fit such a description.


 * I hope this helps! You have my permission to use as you think fit.


 * Regards


 * Peter


 * Thanks for the clarification. Have removed the dubious tag. There are quite a bit of statements purely based on assumptions rather than fact in Wikipedia, it is good to have claims checked and verified. --NJR_ZA (talk) 20:24, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Y class
I just removed a link from the New Zealand section to Y class. It was originally a redirect to TGR Y class but that does not seem to be a valid target and Y class is now a disambiguation with no obvious link to anything from that section. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 07:15, 10 October 2013 (UTC)