Talk:1191 papal election

Some chronological observations
A bit of independent calculation (research?):


 * The "Annales Ratisponenses" gives the date of XIII Kal. Aprilis (20 March). That is what the writer intended, because he nails it down with reference to a saint's day, St. Benedict on 21 March.
 * The "Continuator of Sigibert's Annals" gives the date of VIII Kal. Aprilis (26 March), which is a simple paleographical mistake: V for X.
 * The "Chron. Magni presb." gives the date III Kal. Apr. (March 30). A copyist forgot to copy the X of "XIII". This is the date that Jaffe, Regesta pontificum Romanorum II (1888), pp. 577-578, likes.
 * Celestine was elected "circa mediam Quadragesimam", according to Ansbert in his "History of the Expedition of Frederick" (ed. J. Dobrowsky, p. 107): "... a Celestino, Iacincto prius dicto, ipse et praefata uxor sua uncxtionem et coronae insigna susceperunt in sequenti die paschae, quod erat VII. Kal. April. Ipse etiam dominus papa, prius diaconus, et circa mediam XLmam recenter electus; sabbato, quo dicitur "Sitientes", sacerdos est factus, et in die paschae hoc est VIII Kalendas Aprilis papa est consecratus, qui statim proxima die ipsum regem et reginam augustali dignitate excellenmter sublimavit." Both Dobrowsky and Jaffe mispunctuate, and ignore the incorrect dates for the coronation of Henry VI and Constance of Sicily, which Ansbert puts on 26 March 1191. When Easter is on 25 March, Ash Wednesday is on 7 February (and the middle of Lent is c. 27 February); Henry VI was still negotiating with the papal legates in the first week of March 1191, and Clement III was still alive. When Easter is on 14 April, Ash Wednesday is on 27 February (and the middle of Lent is c. 20 March). Ansbert's chronology can be set aside.


 * --Vicedomino (talk) 05:03, 1 January 2022 (UTC)