Talk:12 Stones

Christian
I removed the Christian tags from the page for two reasons. 1. They weren't referenced. 2. The band isn't on a Christan label. Hydrocdog (talk) 01:40, 15 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I just did the same. People, please find a reliable reference before adding the Christian tag back.Jadon (talk) 21:08, 27 July 2012 (UTC)


 * restored per http://www.rockdetector.com/artist/united+states/louisiana/mandeville/12+stones and others. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:16, 27 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Restored, restored. Your reference is nonsense.  The band has directly and repeatedly stated that they are not a Christian Band and do NOT want to be labeled as such, read it here yourself:  http://www.cmusicweb.com/hardrock/12stones/interview.shtml Jadon (talk) 16:26, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Reverted. Your opinion is just that an opinion. The band doesn't decide whether they are or are not a specific genre simply by stating it and they can't decide how they are to be labelled. It's up to reliable sources. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:39, 8 August 2012 (UTC)


 * This is the point, your attaching the label of a "Christian band" is an unreferenced opinion - your opinion, that is contradicted by evdience, the label, and the band. Please provide a reliable source before reverting, otherwise your commiting vandalism by continuing an edit war and adding your personal opinion.Jadon (talk) 21:06, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for sharing your opinion. The material is listed above. If you don't like it, don't read the article. If you want every word referenced, you're in the wrong place. If you want to fight about it, you're also in the wrong place. The fact that you're inserting your own opinion based on their opinion is not encyclopedic. I would be glad to fill the term with references. ---Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:08, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Merging Paul McCoy
As of now, all the information in McCoy's article is band-related and could be easily merged into this article (although most of it is already here). While the band may be notable, McCoy himself is not notable enough to warrant his own article. &mdash; simpatico hi 07:29, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * For thoughts on leaving McCoy's page as is, suggests that someone may be looking for his name and not his band one day and the terrain of Wikipedia is to expand and not condence. The same goes for why Amy Lee of "Evanesence" has a seperate page from her band. This gives us oportunity to add deeper detail to info that may come of use to future Wikipedians. To state that he is not notable enough to warrant his own page is only an opinion.  &mdash; New at this User talk:New at this 03:28, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * It may be an opinion, but it's an opinion that is supported by the WikiProject Music Notability Guidelines. I don't believe Paul McCoy meets the criteria for notability. Also, instead of using my signature tags to sign your name, simply type 4 tildes ~ in a row after your comment. It will automatically sign your name. &mdash; simpatico hi 02:19, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I believe Paul McCoy should probably have his own article, because he has done some things other than being the lead singer of 12 Stones, such as perform on Bring Me to Life, by Evanescence. I agree--he isn't entirely noteworthy, but if someone hears about him, possibly by reading Evanescence's CD liner, they may go to Wikipedia to look for info about him. So I think he should either have an article about himself, or .../wiki/Paul_McCoy should redirect to this 12 Stones article. Rattletrapmusicman 22:14, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * A redirect would be good. &mdash; simpatico hi 00:55, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
 * So, who decides these things? Rattletrapmusicman 12:45, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Singles
None of the singles actually link to the correct pages. If these pages haven't been created shouldn't the links be taken down until someone gets around to creating them. I would do it but I don't think i could do a good job. Baldie 11:34, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Music Videos
Could someone create a list of all the videos that 12 stones have done? I'm doing a project on christian music videos. RanDawg 14:50, 27 March 2007 (UTC){{subst:image source|Image:12 Stones 2002.jpg)) Betacommand {{sup|(talk • contribs • Bot)}} 00:53, 25 May 2007 (UTC) {{missing rationale|Image:12 Stones 2002.jpg

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Former Members
Several names are listed as 'Former Members' of the band with no reference to them in the main article. It should be stated when they were members. Skylos (talk) 00:31, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Paul McCoy
Does anyone know why he looks so diferent in the second album than he does in the first one.I know its the same person but it doesn't look like it to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.121.51.138 (talk) 03:19, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Genre
They are not just post grunge they are Nu metal as well. You can't deny the nu metal sound... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mixernack (talk • contribs) 17:20, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

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Bullet Point Accomplishments
On Saturday, March 12, 2011, this song was used as the introduction to the ACC Tournament Semi-Finals, televised nationally on ABC. I can't find the reference but Paul McCoy was quoted as saying he would "personally travel to Greensboro to perform [the song]" if they wanted him to. If anyone can find this reference, have at it. - Nathan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.4.188.192 (talk) 18:09, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

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"He" won a Grammy?
This statement in the biography gives the impression that he personally won a Grammy for his performance on "Bring me to life". Did he? or was it in fact that a song he provided guest vocals on won a Grammy? i would say there's a significant difference.

Significance of band name?
Does the name "12 Stones" hold any significance; is it a cultural reference to something or other? 174.24.22.61 (talk) 15:23, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

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