Talk:12th Central Committee of the Communist Party of Vietnam

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 * Nguyễn Xuân Phúc - 2016 (cropped).jpg

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Some comments:

voorts (talk/contributions) 22:16, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
 * There is both TMI and not enough information in discussing the plenaries. There's too much focused on the opening remarks. For example, this sentence: Nguyễn Phú Trọng delivered the opening speech, and said that over the past year, the Politburo and the Secretariat had directed the Government Party Committee, other party committees and relevant agencies to urgently and seriously prepare schemes, reports and submissions to the 7th Plenary Session. It doesn't add very much because it's obvious that party committees and agencies would be submitting reports for the plenary. Another example: As CPV General Secretary, he instructed that 12th CC members should thoroughly consider the documents and proposals in the drafts. It's obvious that they should consider documents and proposals; that's their job as delegates. On the other hand, there isn't enough information on the substance of the meetings. For example, the "regulations on the enforcement of the Party's Charter and the regulations on party inspection, supervision and discipline" are discussed several times in the 4–7 July 2016 section, but there's no description of what those policies are. The discussion of wage reform is a good example of how you can incorporate substance better in other parts of the article.
 * Report and resolution names should probably be in quotes.
 * This is almost entirely cited to primary sources. Are there secondary sources discussing what occurred at each plenary?
 * Left some cleanup tags.


 * Thank you very much!
 * I haven't begun proper work on the "Analysis, interpretations and legacy" yet, but Western scholars and commentators (in the case of Vietnam) rarely comment on specific plenums. There has to be, in such a case, a lot of primary sources. This is due to the severe lack of transparency.
 * As for you're argument that it's both too detailed and lacks information, I can't really do that much because of, as I said before, the severe lack of transparency. I mean, compared to the Chinese and the Soviets, the Vietnamese are extremely transparent. As you understand from reading this article, that says a great deal!
 * As for everything else, thanks for copyediting the article :) I'll begin work on expanding the "Analysis, interpretations and legacy" section. My ambition is to turn this article and the 12th National Congress of the Communist Party of Vietnam to at least WP:GA and the lists (12th CC members, 12th CC alternates, 12th Politburo, 12th Secretariat, 12th Inspection and the 12th Central Military Commission=) into WP:FL. I want at least a GA topic status.
 * .... However, as you have discerned, its extremely difficult to write about communist institutions. They hold their cards close to their chest! TheUzbek (talk) 23:07, 10 September 2023 (UTC)