Talk:14.5×114mm

Dimensions
The diagram shows alpha = 44d30m00.0s (which is equal to 44.5 degrees) but then the text after indicates alpha/2 = 22.5 degrees. I don't know which one is correct.Totensiebush (talk) 14:53, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Caliber
14.5x114 not 14.5 x 114 !! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.77.15.69 (talk) 23:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

The drawing dimensions overconstrain the cartridge. Though the dimensions given are "maximums" ... a little wiggle room

Weight
Why does it mention the weight of the bullet alone, but not the weight of the entire round? It should mention the weight of the entire round, with bullet, casing, and powder, somewhere in this article. 71.112.219.8 (talk) 06:20, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Why? The reason for stating the bullet weight is for kinetic energy calculations. The bullet is the only part of the cartridge that hits the target. Roger (talk) 07:13, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * For instance for calculating how many cartridges you can carry with a 20 kg limit, or how much 100 rounds would weigh. BP OMowe (talk) 10:18, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Dead link
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 * http://www.russianammo.org/145mm.html#4
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--JeffGBot (talk) 15:22, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

test barrel
The test barrel is a KPV machine gun. The chart in the source is directly from the KPV section and says:

The KPV machinegun is also used in Naval pedestal mounts, designated MTPU which fires at least 450rpm. . . . The ammunition used post WWII:

USSR Designation	US Abbreviation	Bullet Weight [g]	Muzzle Velocity [m/s]	Description B-32	API	64,0	1000	Steel core bullet with incendiary in tip BZT	API-T	59,6	1000	Steel core bullet with incendiary in tip and tracer BS	AP (special)	64,4	1000	Tungsten carbide core bullet ZP	Inc.-T	60,0	1000	"Instantaneous Incendiary" bullet with internal fuze, incendiary in tip, tracer container in base MDZ	HEI	59,7	1000	Projectile filled with HEI charge, internal air compression fuze. Pointed boattail projectile MDZ	HEI(var)57,8   1000    Slightly modified version of the above MDZ, with shorter air compression tube in tip

KKV
I have found no reference to the "KKV" type munition outside of fictional sources. I believe it is just that: fictional. Can somebody please cite a source as to where they found information on the KKV? The only place I can find data on it is on the "Nsdraftroom" forum, which is not a legitimate source of information and is purposefully intended for the posting and sharing of fictional and/or speculative data (designs). Unfortunately I cannot link it here, because it is apparently on the spam blacklist, but you can get to it from the index of that website by posting "?showtopic=8181" after "index.php".

Re:KKV
I also believe the "KKV" round is fictional and have found no credible sources mentioning anything about such a round. I have removed the mention of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gewsy (talk • contribs) 13:54, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Search directs for "14.5mm"; can't link to this page without full designation
When one tries to make a link in beta, or do a search for "14.5mm", it just comes up with a single rifle meant for this cartridge (the PTRS-41 anti-tank rifle), and some American cartridge made from a necked up .50BMG and called the "14.5mm JDJ". It seems to me that when you say "14.5mm", most people think of the 14.5x114mm cartridge first, and the heavy machine gun firing it second, so shouldn't the search term bring you to this page, and then redirect you if you want to read about the anti-tank rifle? I mean, the only way to directly find this page if you didn't come across the link on another page, or to create a link to it, is to type in "14.5x114mm". But as for me, I had no idea of the cartridge length. I wanted to find out what it was! I think "14.5mm" ought to direct you to this page, since that's what most people are probably looking for, and the average person doesn't know the full designation. If they'd like to read about the KPV machine gun or PTSR-41, or even the super-rare "14.5mm JDJ", they can find a link to it here. I mean, "14.5mm" refers more to a cartridge than a weapon. .45Colt 00:25, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

shaher cartridge?
Of course, the list of ammunition variants is probably not exhaustive, but this article links to the Iranian shaher rifle, where the lead mentions that it can "penetrate 50mm armour plate" this seems beyond the variants mentioned in this article even if it doesn't specify a range, so either that Iranian ammo needs mentioning here as it seemingly surpasses all listed, or the article on the shaher needs cleaning for bragging and BS. 193.90.160.128 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:53, 1 October 2019 (UTC)