Talk:15.ai

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Edit notice
Can we get a consensus to put an edit notice here on this talk page to hopefully help quell the WP:NOTFORUM and vandalism problem happening here quite a bit? There was a similar edit notice implemented at Talk:SCP Foundation (which also gets a lot of NOTFORUM comments) recently and it can be seen at Template:Editnotices/Page/Talk:SCP Foundation. wizzito &#124;  say hello!  00:59, 14 March 2022 (UTC)


 * I agree 65.190.56.180 (talk) 00:32, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

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More info needed on Troy Baker scandal
I wrote some more technical background for the article, but I'm not in the loop with the Troy Baker NFT company scandal that happened in January/February. Can anyone with more information on this topic chime in? Tacotron2 (talk) 18:30, 6 June 2022 (UTC)


 * I can add some paragraphs explaining the events that occurred in greater detail. A number of Voiceverse and co.'s tweets have since been deleted, but fortunately some of the references still have screenshots of the deleted posts. &mdash;HackerKnownAs (talk) 03:45, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Potential good article nomination
In preparation for a good article nomination, I am making edits to the article to ensure that it follows the good article criteria. Please post any urgent changes that should be made. &mdash;HackerKnownAs (talk) 20:11, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Source on the use of 15.ai in pornography
I'm finding it very difficult to find a reliable source for the following paragraph under the "Fandom content creation" section:

''Moreover, the project has been utilized as a creative tool in pornography. For instance, the Pony Zone videos is a series of erotic musical videos that heavily samples 15.ai as the vocals&mdash;the creators of such videos make frequent use of salacious emotional contextualizers and punctuation/ARPABET tricks to induce the models to grunt, sigh, and moan convincingly.''

While one can find numerous examples of 15.ai being used in the context of Rule 34 with a simple Google search, not a single reliable reference mentions its use case in pornography. In the meantime, I've removed the above excerpt from the main article. Please feel free to re-add the above when a proper source has been identified. &mdash;HackerKnownAs (talk) 20:41, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Page issues and additional controversies?
I find it far too meme-centered, with unnecessary images that don't add much to the article at all. But also, I recall the person who made 15ai being notorious for let's say less-than cordial behavior towards people including their fans (which became even less cordial when said fans became critics because of his treatment), showcased even in some tweets featured/refrenced in the article. He's far from an level-headed person. Although I'm not certain if there's enough to add a seperate section in the reception paragraph. But since tweets seem to be considered proper sources these days I or someone else could look to use those I guess. Pickled Undergarments (talk) 21:02, 9 July 2022 (UTC)


 * I did not regard these as issues with the article during my GA review. The tweets you mention are of an exchange between the developer (whose pronouns are unknown) and the company that plagiarized their work, which were also substantiated in the other referenced articles noted with in-line citations - there was not an instance where the tweet was referenced with the ONLY citation being the tweet. It also seems that the exchange was very well received by the fans, so I don’t know where you were getting this idea.
 * Without proper evidence of your claims, it sounds like you are biased against the developer. Tweets are indeed not proper sources, but articles that have been published in a legitimate outlet containing those Tweets are.
 * As for the images, I do not believe they are excessive or primarily decorative, which follows the Manual of Style. As of writing this reply, there are only four supplemental images, each of which is relevant to how the subject is used. To say that the article is “meme-centered” is also misleading, as only one subsection of the article focuses on the meme-creation potential of the subject, and most of the article talks about the technical details and background surrounding the subject. SirGallantThe4th (talk) 22:44, 9 July 2022 (UTC)


 * With regard to the images three are likely copyrighted and will need to be given a free use rationale. The 15.ai logo has been nominated for deletion at Commons. I have nominated commons:File:GLaDOS.png for deletion at Commons as File:Glados.png at enwiki is copyrighted and has a fair use rationale. File:Screenshot from The Tax Breaks.png has a multitude of copyrighted characters and lacks the plausible deniability argument that the logo has and will probably not stand against a deletion nomination. If I were to make a WP:POINTed edit, I would add File:Screenshot from The Tax Breaks.png to the My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic article to illustrate the look of a typical episode using a purportedly CC-BY-SA image and see how fast the image gets deleted.
 * Hasbro does not pull punches when it comes to their copyrighted characters as evidenced by Fighting is Magic having to be reworked into Them's Fightin' Herds. Even with Lauren Faust herself as character designer, the character designs are notably distinct from the original Mane 6 that were initially planned to be implemented there. 93 (talk) 00:08, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Voiceverse Twitter image
Instead of a solid blue circle, what if the quoted Tweet section had the Voiceverse icon, so that both quoted Twitter accounts show their image? https://twitter.com/VoiceverseNFT/photo https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1528722372684943360/Gc14JM09_400x400.png Dogman15  ( talk ) 10:12, 10 July 2022 (UTC)


 * I assume that Voiceverse owns the copyright of their Twitter icon, but I don't see why it shouldn't be included if Wikipedia allows it to be uploaded. &mdash;HackerKnownAs (talk) 05:50, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

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Copyrighted material in deep learning section
This section cites the case of Authors Guild, Inc. v. Google, Inc. for the proposition (I think) that companies are able to train their AI's with copyrighted material under fair use. An anonymous editor over at WP:RFPP wanted the talk page unprotected so that they could point out that the decision "is entirely misrepresented in the article". I'm posting this since this page is protected, and frankly because I think the ip has a point. The columnist to whom that section is sourced does not appear to be a lawyer. Perhaps the comment should be credited to him as an opinion rather than listed as the holding of the case? Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  06:03, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

False information
Why does someone keep lying that 15.ai was closed down for good due to creative differences? Gableruneintfeb88 (talk) 22:48, 1 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I am not sure who the " someone" you're referring to is, but it's been dead for 15+ months. Read the room. The developer never gave actual, direct answers on the underlying technology beyond cool-sounding unverifiable technobabble. What off the shelf tools built the foundation? Tensorflow? Pytorch? We never got that type of answer. Personally, I genuinely believe you were all lied to by very good scam artist. Habanero-tan (talk) 18:16, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * because its been out for about 2-3 years at this point and no updates are coming from the creator. Mr.DetectiveMan (talk) 00:56, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

اني مصطفى 37.236.83.200 (talk) 05:04, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

A movie
A movie about a boy named Marco 2601:244:4A00:FB0:4094:2387:40DA:9A06 (talk) 03:01, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

My little pony
Mi pequeño pony 200.68.140.65 (talk) 23:41, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Avoid saying the same thing as me or you are out
@Spong-bob.4445 185.244.153.27 (talk) 20:58, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Change to Past Tense
It's been down for over a year and eight months, there is absolutely nothing on the website, and the last communication from the developer was a year and three months ago. At a certain point, references to the website in the article need to be changed to the past tense, the time it has been down is almost as long as the time the site was up.

At a minimum, a section should be added that mentions the removal of the website and its extremely long downtime. Elude107 (talk) 06:54, 30 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Have done the latter. However, edit history shows that mention of the downtime was present as recent as this week, but was removed by User:HackerKnownAs. I'm concerned over potential conflicts of interest with regard to this article but will dedicate a separate post here to this. SuperStain (talk) 15:40, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

انا الاميرة مهر
انا شجاعة 197.117.146.242 (talk) 09:58, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Twilight sparkle
Hi guys do you wanna get this voice 112.204.102.125 (talk) 11:46, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Change "under maintenance" to "dead".
Reading the room and calling it as I see it. Site's in limbo and it will always be in limbo, so it's good as dead. 94.192.47.230 (talk) 21:57, 23 June 2024 (UTC)


 * probably ⇒  Zhing-Za , they/them, 17:36, 11 July 2024 (UTC)