Talk:1634: The Ram Rebellion

Notice On Project Home
General Project resources, planning and discussion can be found at the first novel and series talk pages, talk: 1632 (novel) and talk: 1632 series respectively. The series talk has for example a list of categories that are pertinent the whole series presented so they can be picked up into the cut buffer and laid down in the edit window, sans error. Easy! The series talk lists all Wikipedia pages applicable as well. Click and you're there (Dorthy had to click her heels three times... and you're thinking of complaining!)

Please peruse those pages before editing here. Fra nkB 17:55, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Copyright Issue
This whole section originated because the wikipedia copyright pages of guidelines are obtuse, and talk mainly of images, not attributed quoted text from published sources used with permission. Fra nkB 01:58, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

1634: The Ram Rebellion quote
When I stubbed this article, I used the forward from the eBook with permission from the author Eric Flint. I subsequently requested this be reviewed by BD2412, who does a lot of legal work for the wikipedia foundation and is one heck of an editor himself. He wouldn't accept an RfA nomination until he'd hit 10,000 edits, which to my mind, speaks well of his quality. This is his response to that email:

Email answer on Copyright of forward
I wouldn't keep it - it may be with permission, but it's not GFDL. You can pick some smaller chunks of it to keep, and paraphrase/summarize the rest. Cheers! bd2412 T 01:40, 8 April 2006 (UTC) I've thanked him via email, and moved this post here from my talk page. Once I've caught up a bit, I'll impliment his advice, if I keep it at all when maturing the article. Fra nkB 01:58, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

1632 as a Shared-World Series
Why is this section in one of the book articles and not in the 1632 series main piece?--Nickpheas 22:40, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I chopped a lot of this stuff out; it is about the series as a whole, not about this book, and does not belong here. Believe me, this does not constitute any disparagement of what Brother Flint and the rest of the gang are doing! -- Orange Mike 16:02, 26 October 2007 (UTC) (AFSCME L.82; NWU/UAW L.1981; IWW I.U.660)
 * Unfortunately, another editor in good faith reverted a lot of what I'd done in good faith; unwisely, in my arrogant opinion. I'm not trying to get into a revert war, but I do hope folks will trim out a lot of the shared-universe stuff that is redundant and should not be rehashed in every article about every item from this universe. It gives us a bad name as obsessed fanboys trying to advertise rather than give impartial information. -- Orange Mike 14:47, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

External links alternative presentation
I chose the table version as clearer:Fra nkB




 * http://bar.baen.com/ &mdash; Baen's Bar is an official forum with several sections (sub-forums) dedicated to the 1632 universe: 1632 Tech Manual, 1632 Slush (Slushpile in publishing: Stack of manuscripts for vetting) and Comments.


 * http://ericflint.net/ &mdash; Eric Flint's website, which has much about his work currently in progress or upcoming (in publication, in planning, under contract, in process) matters in the publication cycle.


 * http://www.1632.org by 1632.org &mdash; the official fan site about 1632 universe run in conjunction with Eric Flint and the 1632 Research Committee, including the book series ''canonical references' available for download and reference by any participating in the collaborative writing process in the series. If you want to write a contribution to The Grantville Gazettes, this is necessarily a must site.


 * http://www.klaus-leiss.de/1632Tech/ &mdash; 1632 universe dedicated wiki organized to cross reference and encyclopediatize matters and characters pertaining to the 1632verse. Another must browse for would be contributors to The Grantville Gazettes.


 * http://www.wodzu.tonet.pl/republika_prokonsularna/En/163xCoTNRP.html &mdash; 1632verse Commonwealth of Two Nations Resource Page - a webpage about Polish-Lthuanian Commonwealth in the 1632 universe, but especially valuable for 1632 fans for it's many period maps and links to other resources.

Fra nkB 21:12, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Article Size
If the original folks who began this project are still hanging around, I cut down this article to a much more manageable size. I know from experience what it feels like to write a long detailed plot summary or a section on my own musings about a work of art and see it deleted, but in truth, the immense detail in these articles is completely unnecessary and smacks of fanboyism. These books are popular and entertaining for a small subset of readers, including myself, but each individual novel in the series probably does not merit such a long article, especially since most of the info is readily available on other pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.189.98.111 (talk) 05:39, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Change "The Ram Rebellion theme"
I think it would be best to change "The Ram Rebellion theme" to just simply "Plot summary" instead.--Drgyen (talk) 20:08, 1 May 2011 (UTC)