Talk:1788–89 United States House of Representatives elections

North Carolina
I see that you have 2 pro-Administration and 3 anti-Administration from NC. But Congress calls John Sevier Pro-Administration, and so were John Steele (North Carolina politician) and Hugh Williamson. John Baptista Ashe and Timothy Bloodworth were both anti. Awbeal 14:38, 30 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I was relying on the party labels used in the 1st United States Congress article. The book I was mostly following labels Ashe and Bloodworth as anti-federalists and Williamson, Steele and Sevier as federalists. I see the difficulty is with Williamson, who is described as a federalist by Dubin and the Congressional Biographical Directory but as anti-Administration in the other article. There is some discussion of parties in the Talk page for the 1st US Congress article. I am not sure where the party information used in that article comes from, but presumably the different articles should agree. --Gary J 20:19, 11 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Dubin disagrees quite a few times on the party affiliations in different states. Also, in Virginia 7th. he gives Spencer Roane 46 votes, Merriwether Smith 44 votes, scattering 3 votes, and declares Spencer Roane the winner (based on incomplete returns from Essex, Lancaster and Westmoreland counties only) Rmallett (talk) 16:54, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Connecticut results
Do anyone knows what are the results in Connecticut? If yes, could you put the in the wiki page pls? Julio974 (talk) 21:32, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Requested move 19 November 2022

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: moved. per discussion consensus and MOS:DATERANGE and WP:CONSISTENCY. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Shibboleth ink  (♔ ♕) 19:44, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

– I get that this was when these U.S. congressional elections spanned two calendar years, but we should at least use the standard MOS:DATERANGE two-digit ending years format. Zzyzx11 (talk) 20:46, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * 1788 and 1789 United States House of Representatives elections → 1788–89 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1790 and 1791 United States House of Representatives elections → 1790–91 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1792 and 1793 United States House of Representatives elections → 1792–93 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1794 and 1795 United States House of Representatives elections → 1794–95 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1796 and 1797 United States House of Representatives elections → 1796–97 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1798 and 1799 United States House of Representatives elections → 1798–99 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1800 and 1801 United States House of Representatives elections → 1800–01 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1802 and 1803 United States House of Representatives elections → 1802–03 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1804 and 1805 United States House of Representatives elections → 1804–05 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1806 and 1807 United States House of Representatives elections → 1806–07 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1808 and 1809 United States House of Representatives elections → 1808–09 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1810 and 1811 United States House of Representatives elections → 1810–11 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1812 and 1813 United States House of Representatives elections → 1812–13 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1814 and 1815 United States House of Representatives elections → 1814–15 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1816 and 1817 United States House of Representatives elections → 1816–17 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1818 and 1819 United States House of Representatives elections → 1818–19 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1820 and 1821 United States House of Representatives elections → 1820–21 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1822 and 1823 United States House of Representatives elections → 1822–23 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1824 and 1825 United States House of Representatives elections → 1824–25 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1826 and 1827 United States House of Representatives elections → 1826–27 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1828 and 1829 United States House of Representatives elections → 1828–29 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1830 and 1831 United States House of Representatives elections → 1830–31 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1832 and 1833 United States House of Representatives elections → 1832–33 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1834 and 1835 United States House of Representatives elections → 1834–35 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1836 and 1837 United States House of Representatives elections → 1836–37 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1838 and 1839 United States House of Representatives elections → 1838–39 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1840 and 1841 United States House of Representatives elections → 1840–41 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1842 and 1843 United States House of Representatives elections → 1842–43 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1844 and 1845 United States House of Representatives elections → 1844–45 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1846 and 1847 United States House of Representatives elections → 1846–47 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1848 and 1849 United States House of Representatives elections → 1848–49 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1850 and 1851 United States House of Representatives elections → 1850–51 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1852 and 1853 United States House of Representatives elections → 1852–53 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1854 and 1855 United States House of Representatives elections → 1854–55 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1856 and 1857 United States House of Representatives elections → 1856–57 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1858 and 1859 United States House of Representatives elections → 1858–59 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1860 and 1861 United States House of Representatives elections → 1860–61 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1862 and 1863 United States House of Representatives elections → 1862–63 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1864 and 1865 United States House of Representatives elections → 1864–65 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1866 and 1867 United States House of Representatives elections → 1866–67 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1868 and 1869 United States House of Representatives elections → 1868–69 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1870 and 1871 United States House of Representatives elections → 1870–71 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1872 and 1873 United States House of Representatives elections → 1872–73 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1874 and 1875 United States House of Representatives elections → 1874–75 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1876 and 1877 United States House of Representatives elections → 1876–77 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1878 and 1879 United States House of Representatives elections → 1878–79 United States House of Representatives elections
 * 1788 and 1789 United States Senate elections → 1788–89 United States Senate elections
 * 1790 and 1791 United States Senate elections → 1790–91 United States Senate elections
 * 1792 and 1793 United States Senate elections → 1792–93 United States Senate elections
 * 1794 and 1795 United States Senate elections → 1794–95 United States Senate elections
 * 1796 and 1797 United States Senate elections → 1796–97 United States Senate elections
 * 1798 and 1799 United States Senate elections → 1798–99 United States Senate elections
 * 1800 and 1801 United States Senate elections → 1800–01 United States Senate elections
 * 1802 and 1803 United States Senate elections → 1802–03 United States Senate elections
 * 1804 and 1805 United States Senate elections → 1804–05 United States Senate elections
 * 1806 and 1807 United States Senate elections → 1806–07 United States Senate elections
 * 1808 and 1809 United States Senate elections → 1808–09 United States Senate elections
 * 1810 and 1811 United States Senate elections → 1810–11 United States Senate elections
 * 1812 and 1813 United States Senate elections → 1812–13 United States Senate elections
 * 1814 and 1815 United States Senate elections → 1814–15 United States Senate elections
 * 1816 and 1817 United States Senate elections → 1816–17 United States Senate elections
 * 1818 and 1819 United States Senate elections → 1818–19 United States Senate elections
 * 1820 and 1821 United States Senate elections → 1820–21 United States Senate elections
 * 1822 and 1823 United States Senate elections → 1822–23 United States Senate elections
 * 1824 and 1825 United States Senate elections → 1824–25 United States Senate elections
 * 1826 and 1827 United States Senate elections → 1826–27 United States Senate elections
 * 1828 and 1829 United States Senate elections → 1828–29 United States Senate elections
 * 1830 and 1831 United States Senate elections → 1830–31 United States Senate elections
 * 1832 and 1833 United States Senate elections → 1832–33 United States Senate elections
 * 1834 and 1835 United States Senate elections → 1834–35 United States Senate elections
 * 1836 and 1837 United States Senate elections → 1836–37 United States Senate elections
 * 1838 and 1839 United States Senate elections → 1838–39 United States Senate elections
 * 1840 and 1841 United States Senate elections → 1840–41 United States Senate elections
 * 1842 and 1843 United States Senate elections → 1842–43 United States Senate elections
 * 1844 and 1845 United States Senate elections → 1844–45 United States Senate elections
 * 1846 and 1847 United States Senate elections → 1846–47 United States Senate elections
 * 1848 and 1849 United States Senate elections → 1848–49 United States Senate elections
 * 1850 and 1851 United States Senate elections → 1850–51 United States Senate elections
 * 1852 and 1853 United States Senate elections → 1852–53 United States Senate elections
 * 1854 and 1855 United States Senate elections → 1854–55 United States Senate elections
 * 1856 and 1857 United States Senate elections → 1856–57 United States Senate elections
 * 1858 and 1859 United States Senate elections → 1858–59 United States Senate elections
 * 1860 and 1861 United States Senate elections → 1860–61 United States Senate elections
 * 1862 and 1863 United States Senate elections → 1862–63 United States Senate elections
 * 1864 and 1865 United States Senate elections → 1864–65 United States Senate elections
 * 1866 and 1867 United States Senate elections → 1866–67 United States Senate elections
 * 1868 and 1869 United States Senate elections → 1868–69 United States Senate elections
 * 1870 and 1871 United States Senate elections → 1870–71 United States Senate elections
 * 1872 and 1873 United States Senate elections → 1872–73 United States Senate elections
 * 1874 and 1875 United States Senate elections → 1874–75 United States Senate elections
 * 1876 and 1877 United States Senate elections → 1876–77 United States Senate elections
 * 1878 and 1879 United States Senate elections → 1878–79 United States Senate elections
 * 1880 and 1881 United States Senate elections → 1880–81 United States Senate elections
 * 1882 and 1883 United States Senate elections → 1882–83 United States Senate elections
 * 1884 and 1885 United States Senate elections → 1884–85 United States Senate elections
 * 1886 and 1887 United States Senate elections → 1886–87 United States Senate elections
 * 1888 and 1889 United States Senate elections → 1888–89 United States Senate elections
 * 1890 and 1891 United States Senate elections → 1890–91 United States Senate elections
 * 1892 and 1893 United States Senate elections → 1892–93 United States Senate elections
 * 1894 and 1895 United States Senate elections → 1894–95 United States Senate elections
 * 1896 and 1897 United States Senate elections → 1896–97 United States Senate elections
 * 1898 and 1899 United States Senate elections → 1898–99 United States Senate elections
 * 1900 and 1901 United States Senate elections → 1900–01 United States Senate elections
 * 1902 and 1903 United States Senate elections → 1902–03 United States Senate elections
 * 1904 and 1905 United States Senate elections → 1904–05 United States Senate elections
 * 1906 and 1907 United States Senate elections → 1906–07 United States Senate elections
 * 1908 and 1909 United States Senate elections → 1908–09 United States Senate elections
 * 1910 and 1911 United States Senate elections → 1910–11 United States Senate elections
 * 1912 and 1913 United States Senate elections → 1912–13 United States Senate elections
 * 1974 and 1975 United States Senate elections in New Hampshire → 1974–75 United States Senate elections in New Hampshire


 * Support per nom.
 * Ortizesp (talk) 21:40, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Comment — I'm not sure MOS:DATERANGE applies here because it's not a case of election cycles that span the two years (i.e., primaries in 1902 and general elections in 1903), which would be a range, but a case of the elections for seats in the House and Senate, some of which are held in 1902 and others in 1903, which would be two groups of things that happen to be in sequential years. Beyond that, the default under MOS:DATERANGE is YYYY–YYYY. YYYY–YY is permitted in some instances (including two sequential years), but as an exception, not a requirement. —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 21:42, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Either some MOS:DATERANGE format like YYYY–YYYY or YYYY–YY, or rename the pages with an ordinal number like 58th United States Senate elections or United States Senate elections to the 58th United States Congress. This was a period when each state decided its own separate date for its congressional elections, whether in the even-numbered year before and in the odd-numbered year when a Congress convened. And since sessions like the 58th United States Congress use to begin in March of the odd-numbered year, it left states plenty of time to wait until January to hold their elections. So it was not really "two groups of things that happen to be in sequential years" per se, but one series of elections that spanned two sequential years to elect a specific meeting of Congress. The modern congressional election cycle with every regular election on a single even-numbered year did not occur for the House until 1880, and did not happen for the Senate until after 1913. Therefore a MOS:DATERANGE format should be appropriate here like 2022–23 NBA season. The ordinal number suggestion popped into my head because I am reminded of the Academy Awards articles, like for example the 94th Academy Awards where the ceremony held in 2022 honors films released in 2021. Zzyzx11 (talk) 10:09, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I support changing the page name to a YYYY–YY format but an ordinal might be preferable. I would add that per your comment, each article should make very clear in the introductory paragraph that they were elections to the XXth Senate or Congress to clarify and avoid confusion. Something like "Elections to the XXth United States Senate were held throughout YYYY and YYYY. Prior to the passage of the 17th Amendment to the United States Constitution, United States Senators were elected by a resolution of their respective state legislature at a date of their choosing." Especially as we add maps to these articles (kudos to Richard Kickem), it becomes necessary to note that the articles are delineated by the Congress, not quite by year. For example, Hernando Money was elected to the 62nd United States Congress in 1908 due to an early resolution of the Mississippi legislature, but that Congress did not actually happen until 1911; his election is rightly listed with the 1910 and 1911 United States Senate elections. -A-M-B-1996- (talk) 22:04, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment Definitely support replacing the "and" with an endash and don't really care either way whether it's 1912–13 or 1912–1913. Cheers, Number   5  7  20:05, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Move to 1788–89 United States House of Representatives elections per nom. I definitely prefer a two-digit second year XXXX–XX where it's a pair of consecutive years, rather than XXXX–XXXX, and the MOS permits it. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 11:38, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment I added the 1974–75 U.S. Senate elections in New Hampshire. As with the Georgia elections of 2020–21. ApprenticeWiki  contribs 01:36, 25 November 2022 (UTC)