Talk:17 Million Fuck Offs

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Hi

My name is Dominic Frisby and I wrote the song 17 Million Fuck-Offs which is the subject of this page.

There are just a couple of inaccuracies in the entry which I thought I should point out

It says on the Amazon charts "it got to number number 1 on their album charts and number 8 on their singles charts". This is not true - it was number one on both between March 25 and April 4. Guido (the cited source) got it wrong. See the screenshots at - https://dominicfrisby.com/news/just-for-the-record

Also I don't think the Ode To Joy campaign was in response to me. EU activists already had their own campaign to get Ode to Joy to number 1. The reality is both songs came quite a long way short. But Ode To Joy did get to #1 in the official downloads charts, and 17 Million to The song got to #2 in the official downloads charts - https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-downloads-chart/20200131/7000/

Also I did not so much encourage the crowd to sing the bad language in Parliament Square, my words were "I have replaced the keyword with "fudge". However, if you want to sing the keyword, that is your decision and not mine, and I doubt they'll arrest 50,000 of you" See here at around 4.33 - https://www.kansascity-comiccon.com/brexit-celebrations-dominic-frisby-sings-17-million-f-off-39-s-vid0BxiUdjV07gHd — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frizzers (talk • contribs) 15:47, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks

DF Frizzers (talk) 15:39, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Reply 9-FEB-2020
Regards, Spintendo  21:11, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * 1) With regards to the Amazon claim, the provided source is a screenshot posted on a blog, neither of which can be taken to be reliable sources.
 * 2) With regards to the latter two requests, the claims made speak to the personal thoughts (on the Ode To Joy campaign) and the personal motivations (whether there was encouragement or not made to the crowd) of the artist who created the single. No proof has been offered that the requesting editor is indeed the person who created the single. Thus, their word cannot be taken that the personal motivations and thoughts claimed by the requesting editor constitute the actual thoughts and motivations of the artist who created the single.
 * , I wish it had not been suggested that the editor attempt to verify their identity. While OTRS is the right place to do it, verification is not easy (for example, we do not accept documents such as passports or licences). I've worked on several verification requests and they are often very challenging. As you added in the second footnote, what's the point? Even if they verify their identity, Wikipedia isn't going to edit based upon their word, we need published, reliable sources. S Philbrick  (Talk)  12:55, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your response, and your points are noted.

Regarding the position the song reached in the Amazon charts. If you read to the bottom of the source which you reference ( "17 Million F**k O**s". Guido Fawkes. 2019-03-21. Retrieved 2020-02-03) it says at the very bottom "UPDATE III: The song has made it to #1 in the Amazon singles charts!". https://order-order.com/2019/03/21/17-million-fk-os-2/ The wiki article has not properly cited the source.

Regarding the point of the encouragement of the crowds, there is a link to here to a video of the song the song being performed at Parliament Square. The point in question is around 4.30 and you can see what was actually said, as as opposed to what a journalist said was said. https://www.kansascity-comiccon.com/brexit-celebrations-dominic-frisby-sings-17-million-f-off-39-s-vid0BxiUdjV07gHd The stated words were, "I have replaced the keyword with "fudge". However, if you want to sing the keyword, that is your decision and not mine, and I doubt they'll arrest 50,000 of you"

Thank you for your time with this. I apologize for being pushy. I am only trying to get the correct version of events recorded.

Yours,

Frizzers

Frizzers (talk) 16:08, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * If it would help, I have amended the Parliament Square article to clarify it (For the record, I did watch it on the livestream!), the problem is that we can't really use Youtube sources where they're hosted as they could easily get deleted. And for the Amazon charts, I apologise for the omission and have amended it.  The C of E God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 09:09, 18 February 2020 (UTC)