Talk:1900s

Standard headings
I cannot see a section of "important personalities" on other decades and don't think that is the best description of Freud. Is there anyway of getting standard headings for the decades? BozMo(talk)

Lawrence Hargrave
The only references I find to Lawrence Hargrave indicate that his work took place in the 1880s and 1890s. This appears to be the only reference to this "stable wing" design in the 1990s. Can someone please confirm or remove this entry? -Harmil 28 June 2005 11:40 (UTC)

Quick Description
I was thinking, since the 1910's-2000's(the rest of the 20th century, plus some of the 21st) each have their own descriptions, maybe this should have one as well. Thanks for the time. -Chris, Nov. 28 2005 6:03pm

What was this decade called?
How did people refer to the 1900s in the 1900s, does anybody know? -- Bungopolis 07:48, 21 November 2006 (UTC)


 * The aughts? Voortle 21:22, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Maybe they called it the 1900s? -- Anomynous 19:28, 25 November 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.199.18.136 (talk)

I would like to know myself. Was it really the aughts? What about 1800-1810, would that be the eighteen aughts, similar to the eighteen twenties? Are we in the two-thousand aughts or the two-thousand zeros? Does anyone know? GalaxyMage@aol.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.142.21.43 (talk) 09:33, 1 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I can't comment on what it was called during the nineteen hundreds itself. However, in my experience, from at least the 1950s on, the 1900s universally referred to the (aprox.) 1st decade of the 20th century: as in, "in the nineteen hundreds" could not, prior to 2000, really mean anything other than 1900 to 1909. Personally, I feel that using, e.g., 1900s to (almost) mean the, e.g., 20th C., presumably to avoid having to remember to subtract one when forming individual years, is just lazy. It's a bit like misspelling words correctly ending in 'ize', like 'realize', with an 's': to avoid having to remember the few that correctly end in 'ise', like 'improvise' and 'circumcise', etc. See Fowler's Modern English Usage or Hart's Rules.
 * I do see the symmetry, or is it orthogonality, of the terminology of 'oughs'/'aughts'/'naughts', 'tens', 'twenties', 'thirties', etc., referring to ten year periods and 'hundreds' to centuries. However, I still remain strongly prejudiced against this use of 'hundreds'. The only real arguments that I have against this are as follows:
 * It is illogical to have one term for the first ten years of the current/contextual century that, when applied to another century, refers to the whole hundred years. This may not be as clear-cut an issue in the context of the 21st C., because twenty hundreds feels somehow uncomfortable in comparison to nineteen hundreds or eighteen hundreds, or even twenty one hundreds. So, perhaps, it remains to be seen what the common usage will be for the decade just passed, whether there is a conflict with any numerically similar usage for the 21st C to 1900s for the 20th C., and whether this TBD common usage affects common usage for other centuries and first decades.


 * There would then be no clear equivalent for the first decade to the numerical forms 1810s, 1820s, etc.; whereas, 1800s for a century is so close a synonym to 19th C., it feels unnecessary.


 * On the latter point, R. Ritter (The Oxford Guide to Style: 2002, §7.10.4, p181) has a relevant comment: "The difference between labeling a decade 'the twenties' rather than 'the 1920s' is that the word form connotes all the social, cultural, and political conditions unique to or significant in that decade, while the numerical form is simply the label for the time span. This is not to say that the two cannot be used together for variation in text, but in doing so it is useful to attempt some distinction in context between aura and era". To me, this highlights that there is a specific need for a numerical form, in addition to any form such as the aughts (or oughs), that refers to the period 00 to 09. What this might be other than 1900s or 1800s, etc., is not clear to me.


 * Anyway, I suggest that, as a minimum, the clause in the opening section should be modified from "although this term can equally be used for the years 1900–1999" to "although this term is also used for the years 1900–1999", or better yet "although this term is used by some for the years 1900–1999", which removes or at least downgrades the tacit acceptance that it is correctly a (near) synonym for the 20th C. I will leave this as a suggestion for now, and consider the mod when there has been time for comment. 20.133.0.13 (talk) 14:10, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

20th Century?
Since when was the 20th Century as a whole ever referred to as the 1900s? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.171.163.185 (talk) 13:32, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The 20th century began on January 1st of 1901 and ended with December the 31st of Y2K. The 1900s, by most definitions, began with the year 1900 and ended with the year 1999. 2603:6011:A400:259:15F0:B290:6096:7CA8 (talk) 01:32, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * The 1900's refers to the years 1900-1909, it's literally in the first sentence of this article. 51.9.106.150 (talk) 10:32, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Great work!
I tried to fix it up as much as I could. In my opinion, the Technology section might still need to be shortened a bit. TheCuriousGnome (talk) 18:33, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

The selection of notable events in the montage
We need to reach a consensus on the final selection of images included in the 1900s montage on the top of the page through a discussion (and not through edit wars) which would include (hopefully) many Wikipedians.

The current montage is composed of the following images:

Please share your opinion on this matter BELOW supplying reasons for or against the current images included and/or supply alternative suggestions. TheCuriousGnome (talk) 20:03, 25 March 2010 (UTC)


 * The Image Fil-American War Feb 04,1899.jpg needs to be replaced - it is a non-free image of a 1899 event. TheCuriousGnome (talk) 20:41, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * There is a heavy bias to United States in this selection. How about Modernism, the funeral of Queen Victoria, Comet Halley, Fauvism, Les Demoiselles d'Avignon, Second Anglo-Boer War, Russo-Japanese War, 1905 Russian Revolution, colonialism as per Congo Free State, the Porfiriato for starters. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 01:19, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Dead link
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First decade
1st January 1901 to 31st December 1910 is the first decade of the 20th century. The 1900s presumably include 1900, even though it is in the 19th century? -- most confusing!! Rwood128 (talk) 11:29, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

I have referred this to WP:RY Rwood128 (talk) 11:21, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Bulgarian Independence
This page shows that Bulgaria declared it's independence on October 5, 1908, as does "The Twentieth Century: An Almanac". However, the Bulgaria page in Wikipedia shows September 22, 1908 as the date Bulgaria declared independence. Does anyone have the correct, verifiable date? Or is there something different that happened on both dates regarding Bulgarian independence?Jtyroler (talk) 19:43, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

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Separate "Aughts" article rather than a redirect
A new article titled "Aughts" could be created using pieces of 1900s (decade) and 2000s (decade), which I've cobbled together a candidate for at User:RobLa/sandbox/Aughts. "Aughts" is one possible general term for the first decade of every century (e.g. 1800s (decade), 1700s (decade), etc). The naming problem is a topic that has gathered mainstream attention through the years (as noted in the citations for User:RobLa/sandbox/Aughts), and the redirect currently at the top of this article is a bit confusing to navigate. Any problem with renaming User:RobLa/sandbox/Aughts to Aughts? -- RobLa (talk) 15:28, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I moved User:RobLa/sandbox/Aughts to Aughts earlier today. -- RobLa (talk) 00:07, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

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Add image of Atrocities in the Congo Free State to the montage?
I find many of the decade montages ignorant of much of the world. I would recommend adding an image of Atrocities in the Congo Free State for three reasons: It was a horrible and noteworthy period in itself, it brings representation to Africa, and it brings representation to western colonialism. I think this is more significant to humanity than the assassination of William McKinley or the San Francisco earthquake, so maybe it could replace one of them? 05:30, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm definitely on board with replacing the assassination of William McKinley with imagery about some wider event. It makes sense that we keep the focus off individuals and more on wider events. For that matter, we might also want to replace the 1906 San Francisco earthquake with a bigger event, like the Chinese famine of 1906–1907, or the 1908 Messina earthquake if we want to keep the focus on earthquakes. Koopinator (talk) 07:01, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I have now added a new montage incorporating the Atrocities in the Congo Free State and the 1908 Messina earthquake. Now we've lessened the montage's Americentrism in exchange for focus on important events elsewhere. Koopinator (talk) 07:29, 7 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Looks great, thanks! —Lights and freedom (talk ~ contribs) 07:38, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello, I appreciate that there is an image that brings representation to Africa and Colonialism. However, my child (who is not used to gore/gruesome images) was browsing through the "decades in history" for a school project and is now slightly traumatized & having nightmares. I worry that that particular image might be too gruesome for such a popular page. Would it be possible to find a less gruesome image to represent colonialism? ABetterTomorrow101 (talk) 23:47, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, history simply is gruesome sometimes. I'm sorry your son is slightly traumatized, but atrocities in the Congo Free State were large and systemic, and the image helps capture the brutality that was going on in Africa at the time. I am afraid that any more mild image would serve to downplay the situation. See WP:NOTCENSORED. Koopinator (talk) 12:08, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 22 February 2023

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: Moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Silikonz 💬  20:30, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

– Per Wikinav, 72.6% of people who go to the 1900s article click through to 1900s (decade). Only 27.2% click through to 20th century. For the latter group, we could just put a hatnote redirecting people to 20th century. Koopinator (talk) 13:58, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * 1900s (decade) → 1900s
 * 1900s → 1900s (disambiguation)
 * Note: pages with content, such as 1900s, are ineligible to be new titles in move requests unless they, too, are dispositioned. 1900s → 1900s (disambiguation) was added to this request to satisfy that requirement.  P.I. Ellsworth &thinsp;, ed.  put'er there 18:15, 22 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Support Per nom - highly pointless disambiguation page, should be overwritten. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:35, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:19, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

"The 1900s" usually denotes a century long period
The 1900s" usually denotes a century long period, starting with the year 1900 and ending with 1999. The "19 - Aughts" is far more specific to a decade. 2603:6011:A400:259:E072:4AB0:8E6C:CD23 (talk) 23:51, 12 May 2023 (UTC)


 * We had a discussion about this a few months ago (right above this thread). The 1900s as a decade is somewhat more common than the 1900s as a century. Koopinator (talk) 12:28, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Depending on where you look. 2603:6011:A400:259:3065:D186:D5EA:9CAF (talk) 14:23, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Which happens to be our reader base, where over 70% of people are looking for the decade. Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  11:54, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Collage
It appears an RFC on collages on Wikiproject years will be interpreted to also ban collages in decade articles. Users here may wish to participate. Koopinator (talk) 07:35, 24 December 2023 (UTC)