Talk:1902 Wright Glider

Guys, come on... The prose is lovely, and the Wrights are certainly deserving of all the praise in the world, but this article is just too POV. I would rewrite it myself, but I'm not familiar with the topic.--RicardoC 01:01, 6 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Well, Mr. Anonymous, I have most certainly showed far more professionalism (if the term can be applied to a voluntary project) by keeping from blindly editing your work without a source to replace your near-propaganda, than you have by defacing a public project to "make a point".


 * Anon, could you please point out to me the part of my argument that claims the article is unencyclopedic because it bestows undue praise on the Wrights? Oh, that's right, you can't. Because I never argued such a thing. I get the feeling that a "belligerent state of mind" is a rather constant condition for you.


 * The historical importance of the Glider is not what is being argued here. The inappropriate bias shown by your writing, is. I don't care if you're writing about Jesus's poodle Fidvs, or about Hitler's left testicle. Neutrality is the goal, and although it may come as a surprise to you, it can be achieved without sacrificing literary quality. But I guess that would be too much of an effort for you.--RicardoC 20:22, 7 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I removed the clause "some people consider it notable for the inclusion of yaw control" because of the vagueness and general unencyclopedic nature of that wording. I instead noted that its design led directly to the 1903 Flyer, which is simultaneously specific and NPOV. I intend to add more to this article when I get the chance; this subject definitely needs better coverage. Willy Logan 07:32, 16 November 2005 (UTC)


 * And now I've removed the cleanup tag (for now), because the current state of the article is completely different from how I found it yesterday. Willy Logan 22:03, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Move to "1902 Wright Glider"
Aviation historians unanimously refer to this aircraft as the "1902 Wright Glider", not the "Wright Glider of 1902". I feel this page should be moved accordingly. Willy Logan 15:16, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

1901 Wright Glider merge
The 1901 Wright Glider article should be merged into this article, which discusses all the Wrights' experiments with aviation prior to the 1903 Flyer. Willy Logan 04:57, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong Objection. They were seperate aircraft. It would be like merging Sopwith Camel and Sopwith Pup. If anything, this one should be split. --GW_Simulations 19:00, 5 May 2006 (UTC)