Talk:1907 Tour de France/GA2

GA Review
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Reviewer: Zwerg Nase (talk · contribs) 09:31, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Will review later today! Zwerg Nase (talk) 09:31, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for the long delay!


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:

What needs to be done is:
 * Lead: The lead should mention that it is a stage race.
 * Added this by saying the number of stages.


 * Participants: Saying that it was "clear" that the sponsored riders would compete for the overall victory is speculation.
 * Changed into 'expected'. By the way: the referenced book by Amels said that (paraphrased) that it was clear at the start that those riders would compete for the victory, so it is at least a sourced speculation/expectation.
 * True, but WP should refrain from a speculative terminology. Expected is a lot better.


 * Race details: As you clearly state, there were no teams in that edition, so avoid the term team in the prose.
 * There were no official teams, but the riders helped cyclists with the same sponsor, so the race progressed as if there were teams. I don't know how to express this without using the word team?
 * For instance, you could write to keep (riders from?) both sponsors satisfied.
 * OK, I did that and also avoided the word 'team' in other places.


 * Results: Stage with mountain sounds like there was only one in every stage. Stage with mountain(s) would be better.
 * Indeed, changed.


 * General classification: Add a source here on the riders not in teams and not allowed to work together.
 * To be done later, it must be in one of the sources already included, I just have to find the right one.


 * Final general classification: Any chance to give the full GC as in recent editions?
 * As far as I can see, the full GC is given...
 * Sorry, mea culpa. It didn't appear on my print out.


 * Notes: All need references.
 * I should then find out how to put references in notes...
 * You can use the template and add the notes on the bottom manually with , then you can add a reference at the end of the prose. You can check 2015 United States Grand Prix for the way we do it in the Formula One Project.
 * Actually, there might be some better ways. See: Template:Note.
 * 2016 Formula One season is a good example of references in footnotes. Zwerg Nase (talk) 10:36, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I got this to work. I removed the Dargassies note: I copied this from another wikipedia article, where it is sourced but not in a way I can check it. And actually this note was not really important for the 1907 story.


 * Refs: I cannot access reference number 21, since it demands an account. I cannot evaluate this, but it seems to be a non-reliable source.
 * I guess you are right. Replaced it by a book reference.

That's all from me. Zwerg Nase (talk) 16:48, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I did the first (easy) things. Life is busy, next edit will be at least after the weekend, I hope you can wait for that...--EdgeNavidad (Talk · Contribs) 19:34, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * No sweat, take all the time you need! :) Zwerg Nase (talk) 20:49, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, added a clarification needed template. Zwerg Nase (talk) 20:51, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I was busy this week, but the next few days I should have time again.--EdgeNavidad (Talk · Contribs) 20:00, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I think I have addressed everything now, including the clarification asked by Relentlessly. --EdgeNavidad (Talk · Contribs) 14:55, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Looks good! It's a pass, congrats! :) Zwerg Nase (talk) 22:46, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

I know it's a bit late, but I do notice that there's a few missing page numbers: BaldBoris 17:43, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 * 6. De geschiedenis van de Tour de France 1903–1984
 * 7. Le Tour: A History of the Tour De France
 * 9. La Fabuleuse Histoire du Tour de France.