Talk:1909-S VDB Lincoln Cent/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: TwoScars (talk · contribs) 18:17, 15 March 2023 (UTC) I will start reviewing this article later today. Do not hesitate to "push back" at my comments if you think appropriate—I certainly do when I'm being reviewed. TwoScars (talk) 18:17, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the review Bruxton (talk) 22:16, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

Lead

 * Perhaps the sentence "Within days of the coin's release it was discontinued so that Brenner's initials (VDB) could be removed from the dies." could use a comma between "release" and "it". Microsoft Word is more "comfortable" with the comma.
 * The footnote
 * ✅ Should have the first word of the sentence capitalized.
 * ✅ Use complete sentences—the variety portion can be a sentence.
 * ✅ Either the citation applies to the entire footnote and should be moved to the end of the footnote, or the variety explanation needs its own citation.
 * ✅ The Duplicate Links tool highlights the San Francisco mint in the lead. It is Wikilinked twice. TwoScars (talk) 18:39, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Can the lead be a little longer? Maybe two paragraphs?TwoScars (talk) 18:44, 15 March 2023 (UTC) I will work on this
 * ✅ The footnote "[a]" should be placed after punctuation. I prefer the end of a sentence. TwoScars (talk) 18:52, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

All good up to here. The lead is much better—it summarizes the whole story, as it should. TwoScars (talk) 19:05, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

InfoBox

 * ✅ I have not checked yet, but every fact in the InfoBox should be verifiable somewhere in the text with a citation. (I like to put the source in the InfoBox too, but comment them out so they do not appear. That can be helpful if someone tries to change the InfoBox without consulting the text.) TwoScars (talk) 18:52, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Other

 * ✅❌ Need "alt=" for the images of the penny. TwoScars (talk) 18:39, 15 March 2023 (UTC) I do not think it is a parameter in the Template:Infobox coin.
 * That is a shame. We have the "alt=" in Template:Infobox military conflict and Template:Infobox military unit. TwoScars (talk) 16:07, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ The "Duplicate Wikilinks" count starts over after the lead. This means "Victor David Brenner' can/needs to be Wiki-Linked in the History section. Franklin MacVeagh can also be Wiki-Linked. Might want to Wiki-Link "Union" in the History Section for the benefit of our non-USA readers.
 * ✅ In the Speculation section, the sentence after citation 10 needs capitalization for the the first word "on".
 * ✅ The narrative often says "On month, day, year". (on August 5, 1909; On August 12, 1909; On August 11, 1909; etc) perhaps this could be reworded to not be so repetitive. I don't think you need to repeat the year every time.
 * ✅ It looks like you have a one-sentence paragraph at the end of the Speculation section. TwoScars (talk) 19:27, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Some cities are Wiki-Linked, while others are not. Wiki-Link all the cities if possible.
 * ✅ In the History section a sentence reads "The New pennies were not issued...." No need to capitalize "New".
 * ✅ "Black Americans" should be Wiki-Linked to "African Americans".
 * ✅ "President Taft" should use his full name on the first usage, and it should be Wiki-Linked.
 * ✅ Somewhere in the text it should be explained (for our foreign readers) that the "Lincoln cent" and the "Lincoln penny" are the same thing—or at least use an (a.k.a.).
 * ✅ Charles E. Barber can be Wiki-Linked. TwoScars (talk) 19:42, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Under Collecting, the beginning of each paragraph is repetitive. Perhaps the second paragraph could begin "McMorrow–Hernandez, also writing for Coinage Magazine....." Are they any other experts that could be used in the Collecting section? TwoScars (talk) 19:42, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Use a "¢" instead of a "c" at the end of the first paragraph of the Speculation section. TwoScars (talk) 19:51, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Second look

 * ✅ History section - need a citation at the end of the last paragraph, but actually much of that paragraph is already contained in the previous paragraph. The two should be combined with Taft's order sentence before the Brenner needing time sentence.
 * ✅ Speculation section - "On November 2, 1909,...." sentence is still all by itself. It needs to be moved to a paragraph somewhere. Maybe simply move it to the previous paragraph ending with "rare and odd coin", or as a third sentence in the Resolution paragraph.
 * ✅ Not necessary for GA: The photo of the long lines complements the text in the history section, but the long InfoBox causes issues. If you moved the photo of the public lines down to the Controversy or Speculation sections, you would not get the "sandwiched" text in the History section. TwoScars (talk) 19:42, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ The "On January 10...." paragraph in the History section begins with two sentences that have quotes from the same newspaper article. I prefer the way you cited, but I believe Wikipedia requires a citation after any sentence that quotes something—you need to cite the same source for both sentences. TwoScars (talk) 19:57, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Wiki-Link newsboys to Newspaper hawker, in case someone is not familiar with the standard procedure for distributing newspapers in the early 1900s.
 * ✅ In Collecting section, third sentence, "Composition" does not need to be capitalized. TwoScars (talk) 20:17, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

This might be all I have. TwoScars (talk) 15:52, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I appreciate it. I enjoyed writing the article. Bruxton (talk) 02:33, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * All done—it passed. Well done! I added a footnote about something you and I take for granted: the mint marks. A novice may not understand the various mints and their marks. It was discussed in the lead, but not in the main section with a citation. The footnote's citation is the the US Mint web site, and it has not been archived—you might want to archive it. Cheers! TwoScars (talk) 16:30, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Criteria
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 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):
 * b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a. (reference section):
 * b. (citations to reliable sources):
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 * d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a. (major aspects):
 * b. (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
 * a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
 * b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
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 * Pass/fail:
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