Talk:1912 United States presidential election

Candidate Colors in Info Box
Does anyone know how to change the colors of the thin bars below the candidates' portraits at the top-right corner of the article? The red and orange for Taft and Debs look too similar to my eyes (I thought they were of the same party at first). I think the graphic would benefit from a starker difference—perhaps the introduction of magenta or yellow? Thank you. Startswithj (talk) 04:43, 20 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Never mind, I've now changed the color. startswithj (talk) 18:50, 29 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Why doesn't Wikipedia go to the political colors understood everywhere else in the world. Taft should be blue, Roosevelt should be yellow or orange Wilson should be dusky red, Debs should be bright red.  He sure should not be brown (Fascism) FCOL!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.181.111 (talk) 20:28, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

Why is Eugene Debs picture shown?
In all other races only candidates getting electoral votes are shown. That seems like an impartial and logical cut off. If not that, then why Debs at 6$ an not Ed Clarke in 1980 at 1%? Seems like NPV is being violated in favor of the Socialist candidate, who is made to appear more significant than he was.

ZeroXero (talk) 16:39, 6 November 2012 (UTC)


 * He is pictured because he received 5% or more of the popular vote, which is a standard for inclusion as it widely used by political scientists and analysts as a benchmark of "success" for minor party or independent candidates.--JayJasper (talk) 18:56, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Why doesn't Debs appear on the county maps?
There were several counties won by Debs in some states, and the county maps in the middle of the article used to show Wilson in blue, Roosevelt in green, Taft in red, and Debs in Yellow. At some point though, someone replaced the maps which the current ones which feature Wilson in blue, Taft in red, and all other candidates combined in green. In most cases this is Roosevelt, and this corresponds to the color code of the rest of the article, but for several counties another candidate outpolled Debs and Roosevelt combined (thus, the "Other" votes), or the county should be shown as having voted for Debs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.92.197.36 (talk) 19:11, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Split electoral votes in California
How did the electoral votes get split Between Roosevelt and Wilson in California? 96.247.34.222 (talk) 06:59, 18 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Voters in CA voted for electors directly instead of as slates, so 11 pledged to Roosevelt won and 2 pledged to Wilson won. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.186.73.108 (talk) 08:32, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Nice page
50.53.11.26 (talk) 05:55, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Why was Debbs removed? He won over 5% of the popular vote.
See above. Whats going on here? 24.44.73.34 (talk) 04:14, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Broken reference name
The edit at Special:Diff/1067957715 added a reference with an undefined name "book". It shows this error because the ref is not defined (the article doesn't have  anywhere). Can you tell us what book was it, and what page does the information come from? ObserveOwl (talk) 12:14, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for noticing that error. Jon698 (talk) 14:38, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Democrats winning presidential elections without a southerner
Concerning “ This was the third of just five presidential elections won by the Democrats without a southerner on the ticket, the others being 1884, 1892, 1916 and 1940, although Wilson did have southern roots.”

Why aren’t 1944 and 2020 not included? Roosevelt/Truman (Truman was from Missouri which isn’t usually considered a Southern state even though it was a “slave state.”) Also Biden/Harris (Delaware/California). Does anyone think either of those states are Southern? 71.202.223.249 (talk) 18:34, 6 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Our article on the Southern United States defines Delaware as a southern state. It uses the definition of the region by the United States Census Bureau. Considering that Delaware was a traditional slave state, I can guess why it grouped with the others. Dimadick (talk) 23:15, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

“ only time in American history that three people who at some point served as president ran in the same election.”
I think the phrase “only time in American history that three people who at some point served as president ran in the same election” needs to be changed to more precisely define what is considered “running” and an “election”. I think it was supposed to mean “was a candidate in the general election for President”, but it’s not saying that explicitly. I can think of examples of elections where three current or future Presidents ran in the primaries. For example, there was an incumbent running for reelection and two future Presidents running in the primaries or caucuses in 1976 (Ford, Reagan, Carter) and 1980 (Carter, Reagan, Bush). 47.139.40.129 (talk) 23:49, 3 March 2024 (UTC)