Talk:1944

Layout
I have put a general comment on year layout on my talk page, particularly on the way year by topic is dealt with. There are three different variants and I would like agreement to standardise. This would involve deleting the year by topic from the paragraph list on this page but keeping the box at the topBozMo(talk)

Byron Nelson
A seach on the internet suggests that other sources agree with the Wikipedia article on Nelson - that his 11 consecutive tour wins came in 1945, not 1944 (e.g. CNNSI, GolfDigest. So I'm removing the reference to this from the 1944 article. Average Earthman 12:19, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Births and Deaths
If we were to list every birth and death in 1944, this would end up as an extremely long section. So I think we should be restrained in what we list - only very well-known and respected actors, for example, rather than every actor with some minor roles in a few well known films. So for example Danny DeVito yes, Al Matthews, no. Average Earthman 13:46, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Al Matthews, who is alive, wasn't born in 1944. Therefore he should definitely not be on this article. Information yes (talk) 08:52, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, absolutely. There is also a discussion in next section where I strongly agree with Mel Etitis. My very best wishes (talk) 19:13, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Where is the line?
I disagree that dates for certain people should be deleted because their notability may not come up to one person's standards.

If you start removing the connections between dates, names, places, etc. then you lose one of the corner-stones of the internet itself. The research into one thing would not tie into anything else if you removed all links to related information. This reduces the functionality of the internet.

Also, who are we to determine a person's worth? A person's work may not have a significant bearing on your life but it doesn't mean that their influence didn't reach someone else. A little known author could have influenced many people who went on to bigger things.


 * Well, you can disagree, but you're wrong. Haven't you noticed what the problem with the internet is? It's not that the internet doesn't have the information, it is that it is so damn hard to find it (Google didn't get worth so much for nothing you know). So if you choose to fill every article with links to every single person and thing that is conceivably linked to it, you get the same problem - it's now such an overlong and overcomplicated article that it is utterly unwieldy and practically useless. Hence my suggestion for selectivity - if you want an article listing every birth in 1944, create a Births in 1944 article. As for a person's worth - that has been stated on numerous occasions in the votes for deletion and other similar discussions we don't just include everyone. But I'm not talking about deleting articles here, only keeping them in some form of usable state. Average Earthman 18:46, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * I notice Al Matthews is back on the list again - so I'm asking for comments on what others think of this. Average Earthman 21:07, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I don't really see the problem here. If it's the degree of fame, then there's only one person in that month whose name would be recognised outside a particular country or fan club, and that's Slatkin; otherwise you have a minor U.S. actor, a minor U.K. TV personality, and a minor U.S. politician. If it's that the article is unwieldy &mdash; well, four people in a month doesn't seem to me to be excessive (and the comment about listing everyone born in that year is clearly hyperbole of the most hyperbolic order). I've never heard of the man, he's of no interest to me, but I've no doubt that he'll be of interest to some people. If Wikipedia only includes entries on the topics that other encyclopedias have entries on (and editors can't include original research, or anything that can't be backed up by other sources), then what's the point of it? How many people's births do you think should be included per year? I mean, it's not that I disagree with Average Earthman's general point, but I don't see that this is a case of filling the article with links to every single person and thing that's conceivably linked to it. I suppose that there's a case for omitting births from every year-page; after all, leaving aside clairvoyance and celebrity births (such as royal heirs or whatever), it wasn't significant in that year that so-and-so was born. There's more of a case for including deaths, of course. Mel Etitis ( &Mu;&epsilon;&lambda; &Epsilon;&tau;&eta;&tau;&eta;&sigmaf; ) 21:52, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh, I've no problem with there being an article listing the everyone born in 1944 who has a Wikipedia article - it's just that I think that should be Births in 1944 rather than the main 1944 article. Average Earthman 10:22, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * We've already got long lists of 1944 births and deaths - they're on Category:1944 births and Category:1944 deaths. I've added links to these, jguk 13:47, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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Chotilovo History See 1944{ and 1744}

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aircraft took off from Hotilovo,... of which at least 355 bombed Narva

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Al Matthews (again)
OK, I'm commenting on Al Matthews again - but this time for a different reason. Apparently, rumours of his death were greatly exaggerated. So I've removed the entry. Average Earthman 12:17, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Format
[13-December-2006: See Talk:1950. -Wikid77 12:59, 13 December 2006 (UTC)]

1944 as the title
There are many instances now, wherein 1944 is the sole title of a work. There's now an album, a film, and a song. - Mardus /talk 06:13, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

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