Talk:1954 Italian expedition to K2

Article creation
This article started as a userspace draft that included a lot of material about the controversy that went on for over fifty years after the actual climb. The original draft was becoming rather large but I also thought some readers would not be interested in the controversy but only in the 21st-century official (and reasonably well agreed) account of the climb. So, I split off discussion stuff to another userspace draft which eventually became 1954 Italian Karakoram expedition controversy.

The narrative here reflects sources that have been able to use the 2007 official report but the other article discusses remaining difficulties, mainly that perhaps after all the oxygen did run out before the summit. Thincat (talk) 16:32, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Copying to another article
Thincat (talk) 08:30, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Title
Why are both Karakoram and K2 in the title? Srnec (talk) 05:00, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Ardito Desio promoted it as primarily a scientific expedition to study the geography and geology of the Karakoram region and called it, in English, words along the lines of "The 1954 Italian Expedition to the Karakorum" This was, of course, a conceit, and the object was really to climb the mountain K2. This article does not cover scientific aspects to any extent (they are worthy of an article, an article I expect will never be written) and deals with the ascent of K2, hence the ambiguity. You will see there are redirects with alternative titles to help people with searching. Thincat (talk) 11:54, 26 December 2021 (UTC)


 * I am saying we should pick either "1954 Italian Karakoram expedition" or "1954 Italian expedition to K2". The title sounds weird because any "expedition to K2" is also a "Karakoram expedition". Srnec (talk) 18:19, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

False opening period regarding Amir Mehdi
The opening period regarding Amir Mehdi is false, being a misleading depiction of real events. It is not correct that Amir Mehdi was abandoned (he spent the night with Walter Bonatti, then he climbed down the following day), nor that he was left to die (he died in 1999). It is also not true that Lacedelli admitted such things. The controversy regarding K2 ascent is much more complicated and includes unjust treatment toward Bonatti and Mehdi, but in a very distant way from the one illustrated in the current form. 2A00:23C7:FE19:1901:5908:5FDE:C30C:8AED (talk) 03:03, 14 November 2022 (UTC)