Talk:1956 FA Cup final

What sort of football is the article referring too?
Er... What sort of football is the article referring too?

Other than right at the end there is no mention that the game is soccer and that's in the external links (well I assume it's soccer, I'm not sure).presch (talk) 01:07, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


 * "Football" in the first sentence links to association football, furthermore, it is specified that this was the final of "English football's primary cup competition" and "football" unqualified means association football in England. Rovaniemi-5 (talk) 01:30, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

It's the game that's played with a ball and, erm, feet. Occasionally, other bits of body are used, but that's predominantly it. --Dweller (talk) 20:28, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

I guess I must be the only person in the world that didn't know that the FA Cup Final football game was soccer.

Would it be so hard to include the word "soccer" early on in the opening paragraph so the rest of the world outside England would know what the name of the game is? The same applies to the Wiki FA Cup Final page at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FA_Cup_Final.presch (talk) 03:09, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The word "soccer" is used in a minority of countries that play football. It's been the subject of endless argument at Wikipedia and the way it's used here is the compromise. Please note that "soccer" is an abbreviation of "association football" and regarded as an informal (non encyclopedic) usage in most of the world. Sorry, but this is one of those arguments that'll run and run. --Dweller (talk) 08:03, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

See the FAQ at the head of Talk:Association_football --Dweller (talk) 08:05, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Of course, the most important factor is that this article is in British English. --Dweller (talk) 08:25, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't believe this!!!

From the last response I have to conclude the game isn't soccer at all it's something else that I've never heard of!

Here is the sequence of events that lead me here: An Wikipedia daily email landed in my inbox on Wednesday titled "1956 FA Cup Final". I'm in Australia, I'm not particularly interested in football of any kind but read the story and thought "I wonder what sort of football it is; is it soccer or rugby or one of the many others I've heard of"? I thought it most likely to be soccer but the the story didn't say, so I clicked on the link in the email to take me to the main Wiki page. I read it through and was none the wiser. I had to do a Google search to confirm that the game was in fact soccer. If it had been simply stated in the first paragraph that the game was soccer (even in brackets) I wouldn't be here tearing out my hair in frustration and wondering why this has become so bloody important. presch (talk) 05:04, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * This article is written in British English, and the word "football" is the British-English term for the game you call soccer. On first usage it's wikilinked to association football, which is the article for that game and has the word "soccer" in bold type on the first line. (There was a period of some hours when someone changed that link to point to Football in England, which wasn't very helpful, and if you read this article during that period then I can understand your frustration.) Wikipedia guidelines do expect articles to be written in the most appropriate version of English for their topic, and this one was written so that the reader could click on the word "football" and find out immediately what game it referred to. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 08:17, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

AAAAAAgghhh!!!!

I give in, you can have it! presch (talk) 10:08, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Full name of competition
Some background: The article originally just said "the FA Cup". When it was peer reviewed before it went to FAC, a reviewer suggested "Not everyone knows what the FA stands for, perhaps spell it out." Had I just spelt it out in situ, as "the Football Association Cup", it would have been inaccurate, because that isn't what the thing's called. So I nicked the wording from 1923 FA Cup Final, which was slightly ahead of this one on its way to FAC, "the Football Association Challenge Cup (more usually known as the FA Cup)", got rid of the brackets and changed "more usually known" to "better known". Which IMO dealt with the reviewer's suggestion while adding a piece of relevant information and without sacrificing accuracy. If you can suggest clearer wording that doesn't lose the full name of the competition, please do. I've no attachment to that specific arrangement of words. But one person calling it a "waffly aside" isn't a decent argument for removing relevant content. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:02, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * In an article about the competition itself, a discussion of its name may be useful. In an article about one single match in one single edition, it's not relevant and is just a waffly aside.  If someone doesn't know what the FA cup is, there is a link to the article.  81.133.23.70 (talk) 11:03, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for replying. The technical reason for not just putting FA Cup is that the MoS requires spelling out most acronyms on first use, and just spelling out what FA stands for would make the cup name inaccurate, as I said above. As to relevance, the article isn't just about one match. That narrow view could be used to remove all the detail from the route to the final section, perhaps the whole section, any information about the clubs' previous involvement in cup finals, whatever. There's more to an informative article about the final match of a competition than a match report, and the name of the competition isn't even remotely "not relevant". cheers, Struway2 (talk) 11:48, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Man City Kit
The sleeves as illustrated were very wrong, a diagonal stripe is different to stripes at an angle. Removing them looks better honestly.Statto74 (talk) 14:18, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress
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