Talk:1977 (song)

Deletion and Tone
This song doesn't have any individual charting, so unless some independent, nontrivial reviews can be found, it should be deleted.

Also, the tone at the time of my posting this message here is nearly a review in itself, and doesn't have the required encyclopedic tone. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 15:37, 27 July 2008 (UTC)


 * It doesn't have individual charting because it was a b-side to the song White Riot, which did reach #38 in the UK singles chart. It's difficult to say if the single is selling because of its a-side (though it usually is), or its b-side. The song "Wipe Out" by the Surfaris was initially the b-side to a lesser known song "Surfer Joe", for argument sake. As to nontrivial reviews, I've been looking and so far have just found an Allmusic review of the song (http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=33:kifixcljldde), and I have an article from Uncut magazine (December 2003, pp. 64-66) where a panel of reviewers, music executives, producers, musicians, &c. ranked the Clash's 30 greatest songs where the song "1977" ranked #7. I did not reference that within the article because I did think that that would be espousing a biased tone.


 * I would disagree on the tone being review-like. Although I do admit to liking the song, I really don't see any bias for the song (other that towards it's historic relevance) that I've put into the article. The article describes the influences on the song, its lyrical content, and its historic context. As far as I can tell I used a business-like tone and did not write it in the first person and there aren't any second person references either. If you can point out a particular line where I espouse a bias, or you could better describe how I made a review like tone in the article, it would be appreciated so that I may avoid doing so. Phil (talk) 18:40, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Looking at the article, I do realize it does need a bit more. While I know that the facts that are there are correct, they aren't hanging together well, and the flow could be better. Phil (talk) 15:35, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

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Notability
I think it notable that several punk/new wave bands releasing records in 1977 referenced the year, e.g., the Talking Heads titled their debut album "Talking Heads '77" and the punk band Wire had a line in their song "It's So Obvious": "at least 17 + 3 score, this is '77, nearly heaven". It may have been a self-conscious hearkening back to the influential Stooges releasing a song called "1969" in 1969, and one called "1970" in 1970. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.143.245.180 (talk) 15:05, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

the kinks
anyone else think the opening riff sounds like the opening riff to all day and all of the night by the kinks? 188.222.41.105 (talk) 17:48, 29 October 2010 (UTC)