Talk:1981 UEFA Cup final/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Harrias (talk · contribs) 12:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

I'll take a look at this dreckly. Harrias talk 12:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Lead
 * It is mentioned that the UEFA Cup is "Europe's secondary cup competition", but this isn't referenced, or included in the body.


 * Route to the final
 * "as a result of finishing third the previous season" Reading this, I would assume Ipswich were third in last season's UEFA Cup.
 * Ipswich Town and AZ need linking on their first mention in the body.
 * "..with the English club winning.." Avoid noun plus -ing.
 * "..against Greek team Aris Salonika." "..against the Greek team.."?
 * "The first leg, at Portman Road, .." Clarify that Portman Road is their home ground.
 * Link penalties.
 * Link John Wark on first use in the body.
 * "..before Gates pulled.." Expand and link Gates.
 * "..saw Wark on target.." Not sure that is encyclopaedic language.
 * "A 3–0 home win saw Wark on target twice more, who was substituted.." I'm not sure "who" works here, the grammar jars for me.
 * Link Kevin Beattie, also Paul Cooper.
 * Expand and link Thijssen and Mariner.
 * "Wark once again found the net, scoring a hat-trick with goals.." Needs a comma after "hat-trick".
 * Link Alan Brazil, and Mick Mills, and trim Mariner.
 * "..allowed Robson to withdraw.." Expand, link, and explain who Robson is.
 * Expand and link Mühren.
 * "..faced French team AS Saint-Étienne.." Again, "..the French team.."?
 * "Dutch player Johnny Rep.." "The Dutch player.."
 * Link "brace".
 * Trim Arnold Mühren and John Wark.
 * "has been described as one of the greatest performances in Ipswich's history" Who by?
 * "..with Robson noting.." Noun plus -ing again.
 * "..met German side 1. FC Köln. Again, "..the German side.."?
 * "..Wark scoring..", "..with Butcher heading.." Noun plus -ing again.

Lunch time, more to follow. Harrias talk 12:13, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Cheers so far, all addressed. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 12:34, 3 April 2020 (UTC)


 * "..to the Dutch, .." I think this should be "to the Dutch team".
 * "..with AZ winning.." Noun plus -ing.
 * "Three months later, AZ faced quarter-final opponents Lokeren of Belgium.." "faced their quarter-final opponents"?


 * First leg
 * Trim Eric Gates.
 * No need for "however".
 * "..had been recently been.." Too many beens.
 * Link handball. And maybe rephrase to "..following a handball by Hovenkamp."
 * Trim Paul Mariner and Alan Brazil.
 * What's the deal with substitutes? The only ones listed are those used; are the others not known? (This also applies to the second leg.)
 * Good question. I'll take another look at that.  I suspect they're not listed anywhere reliable, just those that were used would have been recorded in the press.  The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 14:39, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
 * That's a shame. I can't see anything on a quick look around either. No worries. Harrias  talk 15:03, 3 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Second leg
 * Any detail we can include on the fact that the match was played at the Olympic Stadium, rather than AZ's home ground?
 * Not that I can find. I assume it was because it had a much bigger capacity but that's speculation. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 14:44, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
 * "Ipswich took 6,000 travelling fans to the game." Note the overall attendance here too for comparison.
 * Trim Johnny Metgod.
 * Link unmarked.


 * Post-match
 * Consider putting the note inline, I think it is pertinent enough to include.
 * "Bobby Robson left the club.." Trim Bobby Robson, and clarify the club.
 * "AZ '67 went on to reach the semi-final of the 2004–05 UEFA Cup;[47] Ipswich made it to the third round in the 2001–02 UEFA Cup." Are they the team's only subsequent performances, or their best ones?
 * I think the template would work better in the Notes section: there would be less whitespace.


 * References
 * All looks good, no evidence of copyvio or close para-phrasing.

Nice neat and tidy article. I won't bother to put it on hold, as you're likely to deal with these issues pdq anyway. Harrias talk 14:18, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
 * all done and a couple of replies above. Sadly, removing the note has removed the notes section and thus the clear template can't go in there.  I really want to retain the image though.  Any thoughts?  Anything else needed? The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 14:48, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I've moved the template into the See also section for a minor improvement, but short of expanding the Post-match section, I don't think there's much else that can be done. Harrias  talk 15:03, 3 April 2020 (UTC)