Talk:1983 Pacific hurricane season/GA1

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Reviewer: 12george1 (talk · contribs) 00:34, 24 August 2013 (UTC)


 * "During the 1983 season, there were 21 named storms, which was slightly less than the previous season. Furthermore, eight storms reached Category 3 or higher on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale." - Between this sentences, should the number of hurricanes be stated? Also on the latter sentence, you should note that storms reaching Category 3 or higher on the SSHS/SSWHS are called major hurricanes.
 * No need to the first since it was not significant but did the second. YE Pacific  Hurricane
 * "One storm in 1983 formed in May, an event the happens every other year on average." - "happens" --> "occurs"
 * ✅. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * In the second paragraph, you use the term "formed/forming" a total of 7 times. I suggest substituting some of them with "developed/developing".
 * ✅. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Around this time, a weak tropical depression made landfall along the western portion of the nation as well." - Are you referring to TD 22? Because apparently it did not make landfall.
 * Really? YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "though this was later surpassed by Hurricane Alma in May of 1990." - Why did you wikilink directly to Alma 90 if that storm doesn't have an article?
 * It redirects to its season section. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "intensified into a Category 2 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson hurricane wind scale (SSHWS)." - This is the third time you mentioned the SSHWS (and wikilinked it). So why did you wait until now to abbreviate it?
 * Why? Because I did the lead last :P YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Despite being situated over fairly warm waters, wind shear increased, causing Adolph to weaken considerably." - This makes it sound like the increasing wind shear is the contrast to warm waters, rather than the warm waters and the storm. Re-word this to "Despite being situated over fairly warm waters, Adolph weakened considerably due to increasing wind shear."
 * ✅. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Although the EPHC expected the storm to stay at sea,[17] Adolph curved north-northeastward and was downgraded to a tropical storm on May 25." - The second part of this sentence really has nothing to do with the EPHC expecting Adolph to remain offshore. Maybe say "Adolph curved north-northeastward toward land and was downgraded to a tropical storm on May 25."
 * No, but I split up the sentence. YE Pacific  Hurricane
 * "However, the remnants of the storm brought heavy showers and gusty winds to Florida." - Under the headline "Alicia will be first hurricane", there is nothing about heavy showers and gusty winds in Florida. The headline and newspaper article you intended to cite is directly above it. Also remember to change the title in the reference.
 * Fixed the first. @ the second, huh? YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "in 1983, the season officially began on June 1, making Adolph a pre-season storm.[19]" - Wait, the 1983 PHS actually started on June 1? Then why does the lede say May 15?
 * Eh, it's a bit of OR. Re-worded it so we should be okay now IMO. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "After staying a tropical depression for 24 hours, the EPHC announced that the system had intensified, and was subsequently upgraded to Tropical Storm Barbara." - Just reword and shorten that to say "After remaining a tropical depression for 24 hours, the system then intensified into Tropical Storm Barbara."
 * Okay. 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Six hours later, Barbara skipped Category 2 status, and became a major hurricane, a storm with winds of 112 mph (180 km/h) or higher." - (1. Because the storm rapidly intensified, you don't have to mention it skipped Category 2 status; (2. We don't say wind speeds not rounded to the nearest nearest 5 (i.e. 110 mph and 115 mph); and (3. You already explained twice what a major hurricane is, this portion isn't necessary: "a storm with winds of 112 mph (180 km/h) or higher."
 * Disagreed on the first. I throw the second out the article though :P YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Around this time, Barbra developed a well-defined eye,[6] At peak, Barbara had a "fantastic eye".[15]" - Barbra? :P Anyway, these two sentences should be merged together. I would suggest "Around this time, Barbara developed a well-defined eye,[6] which was described as "fantastic".[15]"
 * I just removed the first sentence. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "It slowly weakened after peak intensity as it began to encounter cooler water temperatures, while moving slowly northward around the western edge of a high pressure area over central Mexico." - Because the previous sentence states, "Hurricane Barbara held on to peak intensity for a day", this should probably start with a phrase like "Thereafter". Also, remember to avoid using "it" twice in a sentence.
 * ✅. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "After making a sharp turn northwest, the depression maintained its intensity for 42 hours." - That was more like a north-northwestward turn and I don't think it qualifies as "sharp" either. Seems more like the northwest turn took place after the depression strengthened into Cosme.
 * Removed "sharp". YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "An intense area of thunderstorms developed 230 mi (370 km) south of the Gulf of Tehuantepec on July 4, which was classified as a tropical depression at 1800 UTC on July 5 roughly 345 mi (555 km) south-southeast of Acapulco. " - This sentence is a bit long. Split it after "July 4", then change "which" to "It" or "The system".
 * ✅. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "By 0600 UTC July 10, Tropical Storm Dalilia had been downgraded into a tropical depression." ---> "At 0600 UTC on July 10, Dalilia was downgraded into a tropical depression."
 * ✅. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "of an anticylone over the Yucatan Peninsula." - Yucatan Peninsula ---> Yucatán Peninsula. Also, there is a misspelled word here.
 * Well, they were two. I fixed both :P YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "the agency upgraded the low into a tropical storm." - The system wasn't a "low", it was a depression.
 * A TD is a low pressure system. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "By 0000 UTC on July 21, Flossie was no longer a tropical storm." - Because of the follow-up sentence, you should instead state that "Flossie weakened to a tropical depression".
 * ✅. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "The seventh tropical cyclone of the season originated from a tropical depression that developed during the afternoon hours of July 23 north of Clipperton Island." - Shorten and re-word to "The seventh tropical depression of the season developed during the afternoon hours of July 23, while located north of Clipperton Island."
 * ✅. 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "on August 3, the tropical cyclone reached its secondary peak of 45 mph (70 km/h)." - Is this really necessary?
 * Absolutely. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "After entering CPHC's warning zone on August 1, the CPHC re-upgraded Gil into a tropical storm." - To avoid saying "CPHC" twice, reword the second part to "Gil was re-upgraded to a tropical storm."
 * "In Maui, the outer rainbands of Gil led to minor flooding." ---> "In Maui, precipitation from the outer rainbands of Gil led to minor flooding."
 * Why? "rainbands" and "precipitation" is redundant. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Additionally, the 30-foot ship Adad nearly in the storm and" - Missing a word?
 * Yes :P YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Although initially expected to pose a threat to Hawaii,[17] this did not occur." - Maybe this would be better suited in the second paragraph (probably after the first sentence).
 * No. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "late on July 28, the EPHC upgraded the storm a hurricane" - Missing a word?
 * Yes :P YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "After continuing west-north for 12 hours, it then veered" - I'm very familiar with compass directions. However, I have never heard of "west-north". :P
 * Fixed. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "The storm dissipated the next day at a high latitude, though the remnants of the storm brought cloud cover to Oregon and Washington." - Don't say "the storm" twice in the same sentence either
 * Fixed. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "On July 30 and 31, a tropical disturbance crossed Central America." - "On July 30 and 31" ---> "On July 30 and July 31"
 * Nah. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "At a low latitude, a tropical depression was declared on August 3." - Maybe you could be more specific about the location.
 * Well, there is a track map. I don't wanna be redundant. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Nine failed to intensify despite being situated over warm water." - Don't refer to the system as "Nine".
 * Why not? YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "The depression dissipated four days later over somewhat cooler water." - Say the date instead of "four days later", because a date hasn't been mentioned for three consecutive sentences.
 * Good call GC. YE Pacific  Hurricane
 * "from a northward bulge of the Intertropical Convergence Zone (TCZ) in early August," - "(TCZ)"?
 * Done. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "hurricane late on August 10 and subsequently developed an eye began to form." - Remove either "developed" or "began to form"
 * Removed the latter. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "ceased very close to landfall on the Bajja California Peninsula." - Typo
 * Fixed. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "thunderstorms located over the Yucatan Peninsula on August 11 and 12." - Make that "Yucatán Peninsula" and "August 12"
 * Yes and no. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "It moved steadily west, despite being over warm waters," - What? Were the warm waters supposed to keep TD 1-C from moving west? :P
 * Fixed. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "One-C quickly weakened and lost deep convection." - This should somehow be merged with the next sentence.
 * No. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "The depression dissipated on August 20 after briefly developing a closed circulation." - That part about briefly developing a closed circulation doesn't make sense. Or maybe it is in the wrong place?
 * It's fine IMO. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "On August 30, the EPHC remarked that Juliette was downgraded into a depression, and two days later, Tropical Depression Juliette had dissipated over cold water." - Split this at the "two days later" part. Also, the first part should be reworded to "On August 30, the EPHC remarked that Juliette weakened to a tropical depression."
 * Did the first, no need for the second IMO. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Can the stuff on Winnie being used instead of Wallis be removed please? I am requesting this as the 1980 NHOP (pg 19), 1981 (pg 23), 1982 (pg 23), 1983 (pg 24) National Hurricane Operational Plans all list Winnie as the name to be used in 1983 not Wallis.Jason Rees (talk) 01:21, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅. YE Pacific  Hurricane 01:25, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Traveling west-northwest, Two-C was initially in a favorable environment," - Again, don't refer to a TD like this. That's a number, not a name.
 * I don't see any reason not to. YE Pacific  Hurricane 02:21, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Kiko began to explosively deepen, and by 1800 UTC, it intensified into a Category 3 hurricane on the SSHWS, bypassing both Category 1 and 2 status." - Because Kiko "explosively deepen[ed]", it isn't really necessary to mention that it skipped Category 1 and 2.
 * Given that it is rare for a storm to skip 1 and 2, it's worth noting. That's like a Wilma-like burst there. YE Pacific  Hurricane 02:21, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "EPHC had revised their forecast and were now expecting the storm to accelerate" ---> "EPHC revised their forecast and expected the storm to accelerate"
 * ✅. YE Pacific  Hurricane 02:21, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Hurricane Kiko was responsible for 12 ft (3.7 m) waves along Newport Beach, California, resulting in more than 100 lifeguard rescues and rough seas." - Because there was 12 foot waves, the part about rough seas at the end is not needed.
 * Fine. YE Pacific  Hurricane 02:21, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "While the previous cyclone was dissipating, the next cyclone of the season was starting to form south of the Mexican coast." - Kind of redundant and unnecessary.
 * Tweaked the first part. YE Pacific  Hurricane 02:21, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Moving west over warm waters, the disturbance was classified as a tropical depression about 90 mi (140 km) south of Acapulco early on September 6." - Reword this to "A disturbance moved westward across warm waters and intensified into a tropical depression about 90 mi (140 km) south of Acapulco early on September 6."
 * ✅. YE Pacific  Hurricane 02:21, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "the EPHC downgraded Lorena weakened into a Category 1 hurricane[2] as the storm was expected to emerge into the southern Gulf of California in about 48 hours and thereafter meander." - What does the part after the reference have to do with the EPHC downgrading Lorena to a Category 1? Separate this with either a period or semi-colon.
 * ✅. YE Pacific  Hurricane 02:21, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Subsequently, Lorena attained its secondary peak with winds of 105 mph (170 km/h) while passing about 150 mi (240 km) south of Cabo San Lucas." - Why mention a secondary peak?
 * Very few EPAC storms reach a secondary peak. YE Pacific  Hurricane 02:21, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "combination of strong shear and very cold sea surface temperatures." - The part about "very cold sea surface temperatures" could mean -25°F. :P Was there a specific SST mentioned in the MWR? Even if there wasn't, don't use the term "very cold"
 * IIRC yes, but I just randomly putting a water temp too much, and doing so would provide no context. Removed "very".  YE  Pacific  Hurricane 02:21, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "which found no evidence of an eyewall, thus, Manuel was downgraded into a tropical storm[6] about 600 mi (970 km) south of San Diego." - What day did Manuel weaken to a tropical storm?
 * It says so in the sentence :P YE Pacific  Hurricane 02:21, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Several hours later, Manuel reached a secondary peak wind speed of 90 mph (140 km/h)." - Again, why mention a secondary peak?
 * See above. YE Pacific  Hurricane 02:21, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Guadalupe Island[2] before dissipating at 1200 UTC that day.[6]" - We already know this was on September 20. So "that day" isn't needed.
 * Removed. YE Pacific  Hurricane 02:21, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Along the northern portion Baja California, Manuel brought showers and high waves" - Why did you wikilink Baja California? That is like the 8th time you mentioned it.
 * I never referred to the actual state (northern part of peninsula). YE Pacific  Hurricane 02:21, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Several hours after Manuel dissipated, a tropical disturbance formed 200 mi (320 km)" ---> "Several hours after Manuel dissipated on September 20, a tropical disturbance formed 200 mi (320 km)"
 * ✅. YE Pacific  Hurricane
 * "with winds of 50 mph (80 km/h), made its closet approach the Hawaii," - Narda had a closet? :P
 * Yeah, it shared the same closet with WPTC. Seriously, this issue has been repaired. YE Pacific  Hurricane 02:21, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Campers were also ordered by police to find shelter on higher ground." - Where were these campers at? (answer: coastal parks)
 * Added. YE Pacific  Hurricane 02:21, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Tropical Octave was considered the worst flood in Pima County history." - Missing a word?
 * No, or am I going insane? YE Pacific  Hurricane 02:21, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "It is also regarded as the worst tropical system to affect Arizona." - What is the "it"? The storm or Pima County? :P
 * You jk. Former :P YE Pacific  Hurricane 02:21, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Around 3,000 buildings were destroyed due to Octave.[67] A total of 853 structures were destroyed by Octave while 2,052 others were damaged." - These two sentences are confusing and contradictory. There were around 3,000 buildings destroyed and a total of 853 structures were also destroyed? Something is missing here. Maybe for the first sentence you meant, "Around 3,000 buildings were impacted by Octave"?
 * I put "were damaged due to Octave". YE Pacific  Hurricane 02:21, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "In Mexico, 12 in (300 mm) was reported in Altar." - 12 inches of what? Beer? :P Also, wikilink Altar.
 * No, human flesh :P Fixed. 02:21, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * More
 * Sorry this is taking so long. Because day 7 is approaching, I will not fail/pass tomorrow, but rather I will wait until you finish.--12george1 (talk) 01:44, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "On October 2, Priscilla was nearly a hurricane.[2]" - Is it necessary to mention that Priscilla was nearly a hurricane on that date? This system strengthened into a hurricane. It wasn't like a tropical storm that peaked with winds of 70 mph.
 * It's been kicked out. YE Pacific  Hurricane
 * "Early the next day, Priscilla was upgraded into a hurricane." - If you fix the previous issue, change this sentence to "Early on October 3, Priscilla was upgraded into a hurricane."
 * Sure. YE Pacific  Hurricane
 * "Additionally, the hurricane began a sharp turn to the north due to a strong trough off the Southern California coast" - Priscilla didn't move north, not at this point anyway. It looks like the storm moved north-northwest.
 * Added. YE Pacific  Hurricane 03:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "and the storm was initially expected to move onshore Baja California and bring flooding rains to Arizona." - Why did you wikilink Baja California here? That is like the 10th time it has been mentioned in the article.
 * Open the links. It's about the state not the peninsula! YE Pacific  Hurricane 03:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Some streets in Anaheim and Santa Ana were flooded." - Wikilink Anaheim and Santa Ana.
 * This task has been piped. YE Pacific  Hurricane 03:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Despite remainning small and disorganized, Sonia" - Misspelled word
 * Corrected. YE Pacific  Hurricane
 * "Throughout the state of Sinaloa, the hurricane destroyed nearly 19,000 acres (77 km²) of bean and corn, although most of the agricultural damage occurred south of Mazatlán." - Why does the fact that most of the agricultural damage occurred south of Mazatlan contrast that nearly 19,000 acres (77 km²) of bean and corn were destroyed in Sinaloa? I think you should change "although" to "with" and "occurred" to "occurring".
 * I suggest you take a class on geography :P Jk Really though. Sinaloa is part of Mazaltan.
 * Merge Tico's second and third paragraph together.
 * No, Tico is the type of storm that deserves 3 paragraphs. YE Pacific  Hurricane 03:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "serious flooding was reported along the lower Washita River." - It might help to mention what state this is in.
 * It's wikilinked. YE Pacific  Hurricane 03:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Twenty-five thousand people were homeless and damage throughout the country" - 25,000 were homeless? You sure they weren't left homeless?
 * Changed. YE Pacific  Hurricane 03:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Across Guthire, 5% of the town's population, sought three emergency shelter due to 7 ft (2.1 m) deep water." - This sentence reads awkwardly. I think you don't need the second comma and you should probably substitute "Across" for something like "In".
 * You do, it's a type of phrase that begins with an a that mind stupid brain of mine is drawing blank on as usual. YE Pacific  Hurricane 03:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Total damage in the state was estimated at $84 million (1983 USD, $182 million 2009 USD)" - Remove "$182 million 2009 USD)", because it isn't current and the template used for currently inflation is considered WP:OR by some.
 * Gone. YE Pacific  Hurricane
 * "a small area of disturbed weather first formed in early December." - I don't think the word "first" is needed here
 * Traded. YE Pacific  Hurricane 03:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Winnie was an out of season storm, and is the only known" - Just say "Winne was an off-season storm" and wikilink to List of off-season Pacific hurricanes
 * ✅. YE Pacific  Hurricane 03:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * "Although it never made landfall, it caused rain in parts of Mexico." - Avoid saying "it" twice in a sentence. You should probably substitute one of them for "the storm" or "the hurricane".
 * I put "the cyclone". YE Pacific  Hurricane 03:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * For Reference #5-#8, why do you have a link for their abstracts, but not a direct link to the source?
 * Added. YE Pacific  Hurricane 03:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Something is wrong with reference #15: "Mariners Weather Log 27 (4). Fall 193. |accessdate= requires |url= (help)"
 * Fixed. Shocked you did not notice the typo :P YE Pacific  Hurricane
 * "Annual data and verification tabulation, eastern North Pacific tropical storms and hurricanes, 1983". Monthly Weather Review (PDF|format= requires |url= (help))" - Same
 * The format thingy has been sent back to space. YE Pacific  Hurricane 03:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * On reference #46, change "Williams, Jack" to "Jack Williams"
 * Done. YE Pacific  Hurricane 03:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * On reference #52, change "Langford, David L." to "David L. Langford"
 * ✅. YE Pacific  Hurricane 03:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Why is there no author on reference #54?
 * Cause it's a newspaper, lol. YE Pacific  Hurricane 03:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually there is an author, the source says "By Martin Harris" at the top.--12george1 (talk) 03:39, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Why does reference #54 and #55 link to the same place?
 * Removed a url. YE Pacific  Hurricane 03:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * On Reference #60, #73, #87, and #101, change "Roth, David" to "David Roth" and "Hydrometeorological Prediction Center" to "Weather Prediction Center"
 * Yes and no. YE Pacific  Hurricane 03:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Why is the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration abbrievated to NOAA on reference #63?
 * Tweaked. YE Pacific  Hurricane 03:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Reference #68 is a deadlink
 * Works for me. YE Pacific  Hurricane 03:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Doesn't work for Hurricanehink and I. Just replace it with this link --12george1 (talk) 03:39, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Which NWS office was it that published reference #71?
 * Idk, honestly, not that important. YE Pacific  Hurricane 03:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Why isn't United Press International the agency for references #77, 80, 90, 91, 94, 100?
 * Added. YE Pacific  Hurricane 03:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Why isn't the Associated Press the agency for reference #78, 89, 95-97?
 * Tried to fix these. This really drives me nuts tbh GC. YE Pacific  Hurricane
 * Reference #85 is linked to the wrong place and has the wrong title.
 * Better? YE Pacific  Hurricane 03:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Something is wrong with reference #86: "Domestic News". United Press International. November 22, 1983. |accessdate= requires |url= (help)
 * Fixed. YE Pacific  Hurricane 03:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Reference #88 is a deadlink
 * Fixed. YE Pacific  Hurricane
 * One more thing. Can you add the direct link to reference #13?
 * Alright, I am gonna pass this article.--12george1 (talk) 04:07, 30 August 2013 (UTC)