Talk:1986 New York Giants season

Okay
Okay, I started this baby up today and nominated it for DYK? I'll try to get it GA level by the end of the week. Quadzilla99 22:45, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Alright, I nominated it for GA, I'm going to expand it some more tomorrow. Not bad for one day. Quadzilla99 00:06, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

GA review comment
here we go again. i am assuming you made mods in this article on my comments from 1990 New York Giants season. * I checked on the reference-1, it requires registration to access the article. the same needs to be mentioned in the notes/link * Needs team staff details * "Highlights of the game included Cowboys running back Herschel Walker, in his first season in the NFL, rushing 10 times for 64 yards and the game-winning touchdown" - you only included one highlight. re-word sentence or add data * "Linebacker Harry Carson scored his first career touchdown on a fake field goal in the third quarter" - that is interesting. can you provide details? was he the holder, was he the receiver or did he run the ball in. the reason for the curiosity is that carson is a LB and i am not sure that i have seen a lot of LBs score TD on fake field goal attempts * "defense sacked Eagles' quarterbacks Ron Jaworski and Randall Cunningham three times each" - why were 2 QBs used by the eagles? was one injuired? or pulled for poor play? * "With the victory the Giants completed their second five game winning streak of the season, several of them in close contests; the margin of victory in those five gasmes were 7, 3, 3, 2 and 3 points.[29] The game was played in front of 75,116 fans at Giants Stadium, and marked the Giants fifth conscutive victory." - lot of redundancy here. the first line talks of a five game streak and so does the last line. remove one of them. also, "several of them" is followed by a specific number (five gasmes in Enghlish or games in English - trying to be funny!). remove one of them. * I think you should mention it was Parcell's first CoY and i think LT's second. Please mention it in the article * "The Giants advanced to play" could be changed to "The Giants played" **Fixed. Quadzilla99 18:09, 31 May 2007 (UTC) Please make suitable mods and i shall be glad to make the article GA level. As with the previous article, this one needs photos and then can be sent to FA. Kalyan 17:54, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I really don't think that's necessary, I would tend to disagree with that. Quadzilla99 15:57, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I disagree that it is un-necesary but since i have recorded my point, i shall not let it affect the GAN or even the FAC (in future). Kalyan 07:57, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll keep looking I have a week so maybe I can find something by then. Quadzilla99 18:19, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Required before the article can go to FAC. Kalyan 07:57, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I still can't find anything. I'll keep looking. Quadzilla99 15:57, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Added some info. Quadzilla99 18:14, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Doesn't give a description, but it does say he caught a pass for the touchdown, so I made that clear. Most likely the holder caught the ball, then got up and threw the pass to Carson. Carson probably lined as a blocker and snuck out of the line of scrimmage to run a pass pattern. Quadzilla99 05:26, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Current info adequate for GA. Details on how he had TD required for FAC. Kalyan 07:57, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * The source doesn't say I assume the starter got benched. Jaworski was 6 of 22 passes for 50 yards. Quadzilla99 05:26, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Copyedited, that was just sloppiness. Quadzilla99 18:09, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * How many MNF games did the giants play? i think that should go in the lead para
 * I don't think is really that important from a long term historical perspective really. Do you? Quadzilla99 15:57, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. If I could add a comment regarding Monday night games. Since it is a showcase game, teams that do better are preferentially placed in the Monday night slot. However, since the schedule is determined in preseason, this is judged on the prior season's performance. In my opinion, it is notable if a strong team did not have a primetime (this era, Monday night only) appearance, but my feeling is its too incidental for a lede placement, and may even be marginally notable in the article. &mdash;Twigboy 16:15, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, i guess i botched this one. In my first study of the article, i thought i counted three MNF apperances and thus wanted the info in the lead para. when i re-read the article, i noticed that there were MNF appearance. Though i dont have data in hand, i felt that 3 MNF appeances in the season was something noteworthy for a team to have and thus the request for mention in lead para.
 * Fixed. That was Taylor's only MVP but he won his third Defensive Player fo the Year Award that year. I added that. Three is still the most by anybody incidentally. Quadzilla99 18:09, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, pro-bowl and regular season awards needs to be a sub-section under regular season and not the first para in post-season

Needs closure for FAC
The following details are required before the article can go to FAC:
 * Needs team staff details
 * "Linebacker Harry Carson scored his first career touchdown on a fake field goal in the third quarter" - that is interesting. can you provide details? was he the holder, was he the receiver or did he run the ball in. the reason for the curiosity is that carson is a LB and i am not sure that i have seen a lot of LBs score TD on fake field goal attempts
 * MINOR: Also, pro-bowl and regular season awards needs to be a sub-section under regular season and not the first para in post-season
 * Images from the season. -- Kalyan 07:57, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

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New reference
Putting this here for now, as it may be useful for source material: The New York Daily News posted a "reprint" of the original 1987 story about the NFC Championship game here.&mdash;Twigboy (talk) 17:28, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

GA reassessment
I'm going to keep this as a GA after review. However, refs #2 and 49 are dead links, and I'd prefer that the cite templates are used. However, format-wise they look fine, so I'm not going to push it, though I do think it should be done. Wizardman 02:13, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

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