Talk:1989 (album)/Archive 1

Question
Why do tracks 17-19 have songwriters when it has been confirmed that only three songs will be on the deluxe edition and the remaining tracks are phone memos? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.241.97.50 (talk) 06:00, 19 August 2014 (UTC)


 * According to her website, the deluxe edition includes three bonus songs PLUS three voice memos. Littlecarmen (talk) 09:57, 19 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Are the voice memos, which Taylor confirmed she recorded on her phone, written by Taylor and people and has it been confirmed they been written by Taylor and other people? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.241.97.50 (talk) 12:24, 19 August 2014 (UTC)


 * It has not been said who "wrote" the voice memos, but judging from the stories she has told about her getting ideas and immediately recording them into her phone, they were all her own ideas. Littlecarmen (talk) 15:40, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

US deluxe edition to be exclusive to Target.
Source: http://www.target.com/p/-/A-16365103 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.241.97.50 (talk) 06:05, 19 August 2014 (UTC)


 * The same deluxe version with the same content is being offered in her own store. Littlecarmen (talk) 15:43, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Track listing
I recommend removing that section, or hide, until more information about the new single. I do not see anything that provides that section, which is almost empty and has few references and writers. No better place would be confirmed when all Easy ?.-- Damián  (talk)  11:55, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Seconded! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.241.97.50 (talk) 12:34, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Songwriters
When I open the iTunes Store entry for 1989 in the column browser view, it lists Swift as the sole composer of all tracks except for "Shake It Off", for which Swift, Martin, and Shellback are listed. Here is a screenshot. Where did the songwriting credits currently shown in the Wikipedia article come from? Littlecarmen (talk)
 * Unless there's a source cited, just assume its bullshit. I wouldn't believe the itunes pre-listing either, sounds like a placeholder.  Earlier I reverted fake track names including "I knew you were chobble".--Milowent • hasspoken  01:57, 20 August 2014 (UTC)


 * I've listed Swift as the sole composer for all tracks except "Shake It Off" in the article since that's what the source we're using says. Here is a screenshot of the deluxe edition in the column browser if anyone would like to check. Littlecarmen (talk) 10:30, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Littlecarmen, thanks for doing the change. — Indian: BIO  · [ ChitChat ] 11:59, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
 * That hardly seems reliable, as she always has [ETA: recently had, based on emilywetta's comment] multiple co-writers, that list is a placeholder. I see someone else has added other authors back in, I don't know from what source, I give up.--Milowent • hasspoken  23:52, 20 August 2014 (UTC)


 * It's obvious what happened. The original credits were loaded into the iTunes database, and then they realized later everyone could actually see that information, so they removed them. — Status  ( talk  ·  contribs ) 03:18, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I should point out that while the additional songwriters may have originally been listed, they have not been confirmed. Aside from a brief listing on iTunes, there is no further proof of songwriting credit. Taylor alone is listed as songwriter/composer on all tracks aside from "Shake It Off" which has been confirmed on several sites and by Taylor herself. It should also be noted that Taylor isn't known for having co-writers on her tracks - "Speak Now" was written entirely by Swift. It wasn't until "Red" that she introduced co-writers on almost every track. We should be leaving the songwriting credit as it is listed on iTunes until any other co-writers are confirmed by a credible site or Taylor herself.  - emilywetta  — Preceding undated comment added 15:39, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Edit request 12 October 2014
"Out of the Woods" to be released as a countdown single, October 14th. Source:
 * http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/09/taylor-swift-out-of-the-woods_n_5959664.html
 * http://www.mtv.com/news/1958457/taylor-swift-out-of-the-woods-single-1989/
 * http://www.eonline.com/news/586928/taylor-swift-is-releasing-a-harry-styles-inspired-single-next-week-and-fans-are-going-bananas
 * Adding it now, thanks. — Indian: BIO  [ ChitChat ] 06:58, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Edit request 19 October 2014
Taylor announced on her official Facebook and Twitter that a song called "Welcome to New York" (track one on the album) will be released October 20th. The track runs 3 minutes and 22 seconds Sources:
 * https://www.facebook.com/TaylorSwift/posts/10152502525290369
 * https://twitter.com/taylorswift13/status/523591005069508608
 * http://www.2dayfm.com.au/shows/2dayfm-breakfast/podcasts/
 * https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/1989/id907242701
 * https://www.facebook.com/TaylorSwift/photos/a.113530295368.91862.19614945368/10152495442130369/?type=1
 * It is imperative that this song receives third party media notability is established. Primary sources like Twitter and Facebook are not acceptable. — Indian: BIO  [ ChitChat ] 08:50, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Fake tracklist
The tracklist of the album posted is fake; Taylor herself confirmed it on her Tumblr account: http://taylorswift.tumblr.com/post/100293917445/billboard-could-this-be-the-1989-track-list — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.24.100.207 (talk) 14:37, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Target deluxe
We've got this in the article: "a deluxe edition, consisting of three extra songs and three voice memos, will be available exclusively at Target." That makes it sound like the extras are the only thing on this edition, but in fact it has all the standard tracks plus the extras. I had changed this to "a deluxe edition, including three extra songs..." but got reverted. I still like my version better. Kendall-K1 (talk) 23:37, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

'Clean' co-written by Imogen Heap
Swift revealed that the last song on the album was co-written with Imogen Heap on Jimmy Kimmel Live. Here's a source 2601:C:780:234:1179:13E7:EA6F:CDD1 (talk) 04:10, 24 October 2014 (UTC) ✅ Already done

Semi-protected edit request on 24 October 2014
Hello, I want to put the lenght of the songs of the album. Thanks

187.36.12.107 (talk) 19:11, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

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Track list is incorrect
The track list for the deluxe edition in this article claims track 15 to be "You R In Love" however this is incorrect. Referring to the cited source (https://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/1989-deluxe/id907104698) it should be "You Are In Love".

Pouvoir1 (talk) 22:28, 25 October 2014 (UTC) ✅ Already done

Songs and Lyrics
Someone should create a songs and lyrics section like the one for her Speak Now album. It would add a lot to the article. 

Edit Request November 4, 2014
I would like to add in a note about how a dispute over streaming this album has resulted in Swift pulling her entire catalog from the streaming service Spotify. I was thinking of adding in a note similar to the one I added to the Spotify article:

Swift and the management of Spotify got in dispute over how to stream the album, in response she pulled her entire catalog off of the streaming service on November 3, 2014.. 69.14.38.40 (talk) 05:30, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 November 2014
Footnote 62 reads "Taylor Swift Album & Song Chart History" Billboard 200 for Taylor Swift. Prometheus Global Media. Retrieved November 2, 2014. This is a bogus link and has nothing to do with verifying Taylor Swift's '1989' LP is #1 on Billboard's Top 200 Albums. The link refers to Taylor Swift's RED LP. If you go to the current Billboard chart it shows Slipknot as #1. Although it may be true 1989 will be #1 next week this footnote currently has no merit & should be deleted and the author should be held accountable. 184.76.56.97 (talk)JSJR 11052014

184.76.56.97 (talk) 13:21, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't know how the billboard chart on their site works, if the week listing is different or something, but this article from billboard should cover it. Going to change the source. Cannolis (talk) 13:48, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, won't change the source as the chart here uses some sort of template to automatically link to the billboard chart. This source that states she is #1 is already cited in the article. Cannolis (talk) 13:50, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 November 2014
2601:E:CE80:884:803E:99AD:F9AA:7FD7 (talk) 23:02, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Padlock-silver-open.svg Not done: According to the page's protection level and your user rights, you should be able to edit the page yourself. If you seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. Stickee (talk) 04:41, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Taylor Swift proposal
Just a reminder that there is an ongoing discussion regarding the potential creation of WikiProject Taylor Swift. All comments are welcome and appreciated! MaranoFan (talk) 06:16, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 January 2015
"Style" is being released to Hot AC stations on February 9. The first release date should be used. Here is the link

76.111.218.13 (talk) 13:53, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Fails verification. The source provided above, doesn't help to verify to the claim made in edit-request. Anupmehra  - Let's talk!  14:51, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Orphaned references in 1989 (Taylor Swift album)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of 1989 (Taylor Swift album)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "slant": From White Horse (Taylor Swift song):  From Welcome to New York (song):  </ul>

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 23:51, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
 * This issue has now been resolved. Thanks AnomieBOT! Regards,--Soulparadox (talk) 01:48, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 January 2015
wanted to add a cited fact to the 'recording' section. why is this locked anyways?

EDIT: the fact added would be that the album was influenced by acts such as Prince and Annie Lennox in the way it was gonna be a huge album http://www.billboard.com/articles/events/year-in-music-2014/6405615/taylor-swift-1989-album-number-one-charts-2014

please add :) I always thought '1989' sounded very Princely to me

Faris 161 (talk) 16:08, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Your reference talks about Prince and Lennox (and two others you didn't mention) in the 80's and their music then, says nothing directly about influencing this album. Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 17:46, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

trademark
hello! i am aGastya. And i want to say: recently swift's social accounts were hacked and then she trademarked phrases from her songs in 1989 album. I doubt I haven't presented the matter neatly. Can anybody help me! aGastya 19:01, 2 February 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by AgastyaC (talk • contribs)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: It's not clear what you want. The request must be of the form "please change X to Y". --Androktasiai (talk) 09:45, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 February 2015
"Wonderland" was released today (Feb. 17) as a single in the US. It should be added to the singles box. Here's the link: https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/wonderland-single/id964325199

190.194.10.99 (talk) 20:15, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
 * ❌ Please show a confirmation from Taylor's management that it was released as a single and not just promotional. — Indian: BIO  [ <b style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;color:#1C1CF0;">ChitChat</b> ] 05:04, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * As far as I can tell, it's exclusive to itunes. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 05:30, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 February 2015
All of the curly quotation marks and apostrophes in this article should be straight (as per MOS:PUNCT). The "We begin our story in New York" paragraph should be un-italicized (WP:QUOTE says "Do not put quotations in italics unless the material would otherwise call for italics"). Thanks.

BreakfastJr (talk) 02:57, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done - 4 characters removed, 86 characters fixed. -- Red rose64 (talk) 12:45, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

I guess you really did it this time
left yourselves in the edit warpath

&& Exactly what is Wikipedia’s criteria for what counts as a Single anyway— ♥  Kelvinsong  talk  13:43, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Third person??
The lead says “Swift's writing is less "boycentric," frequently employs tropes and is predominantly in the third-person, showing greater sophistication.” but only two out of sixteen songs on the album are in third person?? Please at least change to “Swift's writing is less "boycentric," and frequently employs tropes, showing greater sophistication.”

&& on a similar note who says “boycentric” makes something less sophisticated? Nobody even said that in the Critical reception part and even so it should have been set off with “Critics have called it…” Taylor has always been known for writing smart lyrics…— ♥  Kelvinsong  talk  13:51, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
 * No comment from other editors, so ✅ &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:09, 23 February 2015 (UTC)