Talk:1999 FA Cup final/GA2

GA Review
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Reviewer: REDMAN 2019 (talk · contribs) 18:17, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

I will take a look at this one. REDMAN 2019 ( talk ) 18:17, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Background

 * Link penalty shoot-out.
 * ✅ – PeeJay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Route to the final

 * Are the multiple links to various rivalry's needed? I notice this was in the last GA review but was not fixed.
 * I think if we're going to refer to Liverpool and Arsenal as Manchester United's rivals and we have articles about those rivalries, we should link to those articles. – PeeJay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * "before Paul Scholes was sent off himself for Manchester United." -> with Paul Scholes being sent off for Manchester United.
 * I disagree with this one. Di Matteo was sent off for a challenge on Scholes, so the "himself" refers back to Scholes being the victim of the previous tackle. The text didn't mention this, however, so I've reworded it. – PeeJay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * "As per tradition, the semi-finals were played at neutral venues" No source to back this up.
 * ✅ – PeeJay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * "when Phil Neville made a tired challenge on Ray Parlour inside the penalty area" The word "tired" can be dropped here.
 * Changed "tired" to "rash" as that was the word used in the source. – PeeJay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * "Bergkamp stepped up to take the penalty, but Peter Schmeichel guessed the direction of his kick correctly and made the save." -> but Schmeichel saved Bergkamp's penalty to keep the scores level. Would read better.
 * I'm not sure I agree. Sure, your version is shorter, but a goalkeeper can make a save without diving the right way. – PeeJay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Might want to change the word "net" to "goal" just after Giggs scores.
 * "The roof of the net" is a common phrase, so I don't think we should change this. – PeeJay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Pre-match

 * "Roy Keane and Paul Scholes were suspended for that match, so they were paired in central midfield" I'm assuming this is Manchester confirming their midfield lineup for the Champions League final. If so, it needs a supporting ref.
 * I don't understand what you mean. I agree it probably needs a ref, but not for the reason you've mentioned. – PeeJay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm asking weather the text is referring to Manchester's UCL final lineup. Guessing that since the pair weren't able to play in the cup final, they were assured a place in the team for the next game. REDMAN 2019  ( talk ) 12:07, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keane and Scholes were suspended for the UCL final, so they played in the FA Cup final. I added a source confirming that to be true. KingSkyLord (talk &#124; contribs) 14:41, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Match

 * "Meanwhile, Newcastle had made their game plan clear; tackles from" -> While violent tackles from. Shorter and sounds less like a journalists report.
 * I've taken out the bit about Newcastle's game plan, but "violent" sounds like an opinion we can't justify. – PeeJay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * " but while Hamann was able to continue with a dead leg" this reads like it was Hamann who was on the receiving end of the tackle when he was the one committing it.
 * I'm not sure it does. If people read the full sentence, they'll get it. – PeeJay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Sheringham was brought on for Keane. I feel that this could do with some more info given that Ferguson was replacing a centre midfielder with a centre forward who would go on to score and be man of the match.
 * What would you suggest we say? – PeeJay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Post-match

 * The tag needs to be got rid of.
 * I've commented it out. – PeeJay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Legacy

 * Is this section nessercery? It comprises of one sentence and could easily be merged into either the lead of the "Post-match" section.
 * Done. – PeeJay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

General

 * There are several instances of WP:SEAOFBLUE here, they should be sorted if possible.
 * I've done as much as I can. – PeeJay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Comments
The article needs a bit more clean-up and several references need replacing or archiving but I think that this can be brought to GA status once these matters have been dealt with. Putting on hold until those have been fixed. REDMAN 2019 ( talk ) 19:28, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Since you have limited contributions to the article, I suggest contacting as he has done most of the work on the article this past year and he may be able to provide advice or assistance.  REDMAN 2019  ( talk ) 19:32, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay. I will see what we can do together. KingSkyLord (talk &#124; contribs) 00:45, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The article is in better shape now and after the last issue with the pre-match team selection is sorted I will be happy to pass this. REDMAN 2019  ( talk ) 12:12, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I feel this now meets the GA criteria and am passing it accordingly. Congrats REDMAN 2019  ( talk ) 17:07, 15 May 2021 (UTC)