Talk:1999 Odisha cyclone

Cleanup
This article needs to be cleaned up big time.

E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 00:29, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Todo
More impact. Jdorje 21:27, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I added more and added refs, but I haven't found very much info. This is gonna be tough. íslenska hurikein #12 (samtal) 00:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Does anybody know of a place where I can get some info? íslenska hurikein #12 (samtal) 17:51, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Look back in time here (Bangladesh) and here (India) for a lot of info...--Nilfanion (talk) 18:02, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh cool, thanks. íslenska hurikein #12 (samtal) 18:52, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't see any good info. íslenska hurikein | #12 (samtal) 19:22, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

So what should i do now? íslenskur fellibylur #12 (samtal) 21:52, 27 September 2006 (UTC)


 * More impact. I'm positive a storm only 7 years ago that caused several billion in damage has more impact out there. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 22:19, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I looked tons though. But some how, some way, after I look, you're able to find loads of info. I don't get it. Whatever, I look some more. íslenskur fellibylur #12 (samtal) 22:26, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Are you convinced? Here's some links I found with a quick google search. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 01:01, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Links

 * Impact and Aftermath
 * Reason for disaster (deforestation)
 * Impact and Aftermath
 * Impact
 * Impact and Aftermath
 * India and Myanmar Impact, Aftermath
 * Mitigation and Aftermath <-- This link shows that preparedness measures were established, leading to better preparations for a storm one one year after the cyclone
 * Dartmouth Flood Observatory
 * Told ya you could find stuff somehow someway. Thanks for the links though; I'll get to work on it tomorrow. íslenskur fellibylur #12 (samtal) 01:46, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

I think it looks much better, but I know there's more info out there. But I think I'm done working on it for now. Now for Chanchu. íslenskur fellibylur #12 (samtal) 23:19, 1 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Good info
 * Can it be upgraded to B or something now? íslenskur fel lib ylur #12 (samtal) 03:14, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
 * It's better, but I'd like to see some more impact before upping it to B class. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 03:23, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Article Name
This article needs to be renamed to Cyclone 05B to be consistent with other cyclones in this basin (example: Cyclone Agni. --Coredesat 03:45, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. —Cuivi é nen

Is this the best title for the article? Some reports, such as reliefweb, refer it as the Orissa Cyclone. I propose it be renamed to 1999 Orissa Cyclone, with a dab on the top indicating there was another cyclone that struck the area just weeks before. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 02:40, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't mind calling it 1999 Orissa cyclone, if that's what most media reports called it. --Core desat  05:01, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Should cyclone be capitalized or not? Hurricanehink ( talk ) 05:45, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Per naming conventions, it should be left lowercase. --Core desat  06:40, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I brought back the discussion that Nilfanion started on the WPTC talk page over naming conventions, including whether to capitalize the first letter of the last word or not (cyclone or Cyclone). Hurricanehink ( talk ) 17:24, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Naming the article 1999 Orissa super cyclone would distinguish it from the other cyclone that hit Orissa in the same month.Potapych (talk) 01:48, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * "Super cyclone" could be POV. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  01:56, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, I have a solution. The JTWC has the first inland datapoint for Cyclone 4B as being on the border between Orissa and Andhra Pradesh; since the cyclone came from the south, we know it hit Andhra Pradesh (though extreme eastern portion), so if Cyclone 4B needs an article, it could be 1999 Andhra Pradesh cyclone. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 02:32, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * IMD says that made landfall in Orissa as well. "Super cyclone" is frenquently used, the other one could be called Gopalpur Cyclone, I guess. "Super cyclone" would also work since it is the first of only two official "super cyclonic storms".Potapych (talk) 15:16, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Naming the other one the Golpapur Cyclone might be confusing, since there are a few areas called Gopalpur (with the one in Orissa being called Gopalpur-on-Sea on Wikipedia). Just brainstorming, we could call this one the 1999 Jagatsinghpur cyclone, as that was where most of the deaths occurred. Simply calling this article the '99 Orissa super cyclone wouldn't be enough of a distinction, IMO. Then again, I think this one should be kept at the current title, since it was clearly the more famous of the two cyclones that hit Orissa in 1999. The other one could be called 1999 Ganjam cyclone, if/when it gets an article, since that was the district where it made landfall, and JTWC says that is where the most impact occurred. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 22:27, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That's what the Indian government called them on page 28 Potapych (talk) 23:16, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I personally don't think that calling it the Gopalpur Cyclone would be the best solution for Cyclone 04B. The article on Gopalpur is a dab to a city in India and Bangladesh. The one in India (Gopalpur, India) is to a city in West Bengal, but the city it struck was Gopalpur-on-Sea. Again, regarding whether or not to call this article super cyclone or just cyclone, I feel it would add confusion to the title. NIO articles generally just have the word "cyclone" in the title. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 00:49, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I think Gopalpur cyclone and Orissa super cyclone are both still better. Googling "Gopalpur cyclone" gives eight hits on the first page which are about the storm. "Orissa super cyclone" comes from a number of sources used in this article. Wouldn't those be more useful to the reader?Potapych (talk) 20:37, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Since I disagree with the above user, and he disagrees with me, does anyone else have any opinion? This discussion is for a what-if sceniario, since the other storm does not currently have an article. A current placeholder name, if someone takes the initiative to make it, could just be Cyclone 04B (1999). ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 01:10, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

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Finally moved
Thank God someone finally moved the article to its proper name. I always thought the article belonged under this name, long before I created my account. Nice to see that the title finally makes sense. Good job, people. --UltimateDarkloid (talk) 11:28, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Changes to links, and support for fatality count
The citation supporting the number of deaths and other claims here did not load for me. I think they've reorganized their site, and this site may be the original page referenced. If anyone remembers the original page, and I have it wrong, please correct me, but I've replaced a non-loading link with one that works. I spot-checked some of the claims and they seem to be supported.

The link supports the claim of 10,000 fatalities with the statement, "Official figures state 10,000 people died but could be more." I am adding a site which uses the value of 15,000, so I am updating the count to that number, unless anyone objects. I will leave the updated BAPS link for the other claims, then use the sigma link for the 15,000.

If anyone disagrees, let me know and we can sort through which value is best supported.-- SPhilbrick  T  16:38, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Dead link
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 * http://www.un.org.in/orissa.htm
 * In 1999 Orissa cyclone on 2011-05-25 06:42:30, 404 NOT FOUND
 * In 1999 Orissa cyclone on 2011-06-08 23:36:28, 404 NOT FOUND

--JeffGBot (talk) 23:37, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Corporate editing
Most of the Aftermath section looks like an advertisement for one particular organisation i.e. BAPS (which TBH I've never even heard of till I read this article), and no doubt the text was inserted by a member of the said organisation. The Red Cross is in a separate league altogether, but when it comes to charities and NGOs, I'm due there's no death of organisations doing their bit to help survivors after every such disaster. I don't see the need for any particular organisation to be highlighted to such an extent; makes the article look biased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.177.12.12 (talk) 01:08, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

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