Talk:1st Croatian Guards Corps

Redirect to 1st Croatian Guards Brigade
, 1st Croatian Guards Brigade used to be a redirect to the this article (1st Croatian Guards Corps) since the 1st Croatian Guards Brigade (1. hrvatski gardijski zdrug) was a part of the corps and it is dealt with by the same article. I saw you have modified the redirect to the 1st Guards Brigade (Croatia) (1. gardijska brigada). I'm not quite sure what is better here since the latter is likely to be what is normally searched, but the sources (Balkan Battlegrounds) refer to the 1.HGZdrug as 1st Croatian Guards Corps. The problem being - of course - that a "zdrug" is an archaic term for "brigade" and the two units are virtually synonymous indistiguishable by name except from the "Croatian" explicitly included in the zdrug's name. I have no idea how to untangle this. Thoughts?--Tomobe03 (talk) 22:04, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

On a further note, the change of the redirect target made the hatnote in 1st Guards Brigade (Croatia) circular.--Tomobe03 (talk) 22:23, 22 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Trying to decipher what was my rationale behind that edit, but I'm drawing a blank, that was long time ago. Could have made sense then, I suppose.
 * Zdrug is a historical term now, it's no longer in use? I'm not sure either how to resolve it, it's indeed far from obvious. GregorB (talk) 22:36, 22 February 2021 (UTC)


 * No, as far as I can tell, zdrug is no longer in use anywhere.--Tomobe03 (talk) 22:52, 22 February 2021 (UTC)


 * For the record - none of the two are active units.
 * Actually, it only makes sense to revert the redirect to the HGZ article because the reliable sources use the term and for the sake of practicality - a considerable number of articles link to the redirect referring to 1.HGZdrug specifically. Basically, the only way one can land to the wrong "brigade" is if they type exact name of the Zdrug used in the Balkan Battlegrounds while wishing to read the other article. Such cases should be dealt with by a pair of descriptive hatnotes.--Tomobe03 (talk) 23:12, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Removal of "Post war" section
I have removed a very short "Post war" section for several reasons. First, it adds nothing to understanding of the topic as referenced prose elsewhere clearly establishes that the unit was specifically used for the stated purpose of protection of the President of the Republic - including the postwar period (until 2000). Second: Nothing noteworthy occurred at the particular deployment. Third: The source used was less than reliable and several claims presented in the section were either entirely non-notable as "being ordered to protect the president until reinforcements arrive" in case of an attack (which was not expected and did not materialise) or dubious/editorialising (e.g. giving appearance that UNTAES was not in control of the area or citing "dozens" of soldiers awaiting in "hospital helicopter" - likely a medevac Mi-8 which cannot possibly carry more than 24 people without medical or heavy combat gear, much less with any of that).--Tomobe03 (talk) 00:11, 23 February 2021 (UTC)