Talk:2004 Madrid train bombings/Archive 13

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Change it, it has been edited and is misleading, put it's original daytime picture back on so the public is not mislead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.97.85.32 (talk) 21:47, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

NATO PLANTED AND DETONATED THESE BOMBS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 8.225.200.133 (talk) 18:08, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

CONSPIRACY THEORIES

"Sectors of the People's Party (PP), and certain media, such as El Mundo newspaper and the COPE radio station,[79] continue to support theories relating the attack to a vast conspiracy to remove the governing party from power. Support for the conspiracy was also given by the Asociación de Víctimas del Terrorismo (AVT), Spain's largest association of victims of terrorism."

What is not mentioned here is that it was the Aznar government/NATO/Spanish Intelligence and United States Intelligence that perpetrated this horrific act of terrorism to gain coalition support for the continuing illegal occupation of innocent masses in Afghanistan and Iraq. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 8.225.200.133 (talk) 18:15, 17 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Why is it not mentioned? Probably because, like the conspiracy theories that it was the PSOE that did it no one takes such a ludicrous theory seriously. Nor we should we entertain it here. Read WP:FRINGE for further details of why not. Valenciano (talk) 18:43, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

al-Qaeda?
The article's info box states the assailants of these bombings as al-Qaeda, while the body of the article casts serious doubt about whether al-Qaeda is even connected to the cell that carried out the bombings. This is misleading -- if the article does not establish al-Qaeda responsibility, or even connection, then this item ought to be removed from the info box and the readers can make up their own mind about this alleged connection based on the material in the body of the article (and the same goes for the al-Qaeda box template at the bottom of the article, in which these bombings are listed in the timeline of attacks). Otherwise, if indeed these attacks were carried out by al-Qaeda, then this article lacks in supporting information to establish this.--67.250.35.250 (talk) 06:45, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

I will remove the reference to al-Qaeda from the info box and from the al-Qaeda timeline at the bottom given the absence of evidence.--67.250.35.250 (talk) 00:04, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

A new book published recently in Spain attributes the bombings to a revenge operation planned following the earlier dismantling of an Al Qaeda cell in Spain in 2001. All of this might be arguable but its not the case that there is no evidence of an al-Qaeda connection - http://www.ctc.usma.edu/posts/the-evidence-of-al-qaidas-role-in-the-2004-madrid-attack Southofwatford (talk) 09:12, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Strange phrase in introduction
the last line of the introduction ends: "experts have repeatedly said that there is no such thing as an intellectual author in Spanish law."

The meaning of this sentence is unclear and it seems out of place. However I'm not familiar enough with the article or the subject to be able to correct it. Can someone who is more familiar edit it appropriately? pomegranate (talk) 15:07, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

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 * Reactions section. Last paragraph utterly unnecessary and possibly ridiculous.  I don't care if it is footnoted.   "Mostly women experienced post-traumatic growth, especially if they were indirectly exposed to the attack. It is believed that post traumatic growth may even lead to a more fulfilling and meaningful life.[113]"    This leads to the conclusion that more bombings would be a good thing, especially for women!   Something needs to be done about this entire line of psychological gibberish.Christinedoby (talk) 10:31, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I moved the psychological gibberish and less important popular culture reactions to Reactions to the 2004 Madrid train bombings. The section could use some summary style expansion of what the reactions article says. ViperFace (talk) 03:21, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

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