Talk:2004 Mexican UFO incident

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--JeffGBot (talk) 08:39, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

abt. -130° azimuth
What does abt. mean? Varlaam (talk) 08:15, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Unproper description terms: oil well gas flames is not correct.
The article refers to the description of Capt. Franz stating that "They are now confirmed to be oil well gas flames"... which is not truly correct, since the images shown on the video are not from oil wells. The correct terms that shoud have been used by Capt. Franz should have said: "they are now confirmed to be the images of the flames produced by the Flare stacks of the PEMEX platform complexes in the Campeche Bay area". Anyone familiar with the flame arrangement of the (then) main platform complexes: Akal-C, Akal-J and Nohoch-A platform complexes, will immediately recognize the image. Bear in mind that at that time, PEMEX platforms were burning very large quantities of natural gas loaded with appreciable quantities of natural gas liquids, which causes the flames to be much larger in size and with much more Infrared Radiance than those produced by most offshore flares in general, which explains the easyness of them being caught by the IR radar of the Mexican Air force plane. One key to understand the IR image is to look at the slightly different "hot spheres" heights, produced by the slightly shorter (lower) flare height of the flare burners of the Compression Platforms which have shorter self-supporting structures, than the "Derrick-type" higher flares of the neighboring Production Platforms in each Platform complex. Unless the video is carefully analyzed again, it will continue to feed the imagination of the people akin to believe those "very hot spheres" were extra-terrestrial; but the perennial tendency of Mexican autorities to conceal any piece of evidence will perpetuate this myth. The opinion of experienced helicopter pilots that fly daily to Campeche Bay PEMEX platforms should help clarify this matter properly; added to the embarrassement that publicly recognizing that its military pilots had mistook the offshore flare burners for UFO's would carry. Amclaussen.

Third Sentence Needs Editing
Here's how it reads as I write this. Try to parse the meaning, if you can. I wonder if the spanish-to-english google translate page of the spanish language version of this was pasted in directly. I started to try to write a correction, but I'd just heard of the incident (which is why I was looking it up) and have no idea what this is even trying to say.

I follow it up to "lonely truck on the highway below."

Okay. So radars showed empty skies at the time this was observed. Where does the Merlin C26A aircraft (military version of a twin engine commuter puddle-jumper) come in?


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The crew did however pick up an earlier radar contact of an object moving at 60 mph which was later described as a lonely truck on the highway below which has been located to the front of the two engine Merlin C26A aircraft whereas the infrared targets were picked up through a dome mounted IR-system a little later at abt. -130° azimuth relative to the aircraft's flight direction in its 8 o'clock position.

Also, I believe the following should more clearly indicate that it's a quote from Mexican Air Force Captain Franz:

''Mexican Air Force FLIR's video lights are not UFOs. They are now confirmed to be oil well gas flames. The AN/APS 143 Radar video is unavailable and the targets detected could be vehicles on the Yucatán's peninsula highways'' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.207.21.161 (talk) 01:33, 25 June 2013 (UTC)