Talk:2004 South African general election

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Not sure why the two figures have been changed. According to the official results, the PAC went from 0.71 to 0.73%, and the MF from 0.30 to 0.35 IEC website -- Greenman 19 April 2004 00:38 SA Time

I'm sure I read somewhere that there is a 1% threshold for representation in the Assembly, yet parties like the PAC have won seats with less than 1%. Does anyone know about this? Adam 02:53, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)

No, there's no threshold, and it works out at around 0.25% per seat, although with a slight bias towards the smaller parties so parties getting slightly less can get a seat. Greenman 19 April 2004 8:48 SA Time

I added the leaders of AZAPO and the Minoriy Front. I would make pages for them but I'm still trying to figure out the site. Also, I think the '94 and '99 elections should have the same format as this one, it would be good to know who all the party leaders were at those times. I could help if anyone wants to do that but as I said before, I'm still trying to get the hang of things. Pimpalicious 30 April 2004 4:31 (ET)

The IEC's website is an embarrassment. I've tried my best to reproduce their verbose election results into something more accessible. Patrickarzul 02 May 2004 22:33 (SAST)

My website now gives province-level results with names of National Assembly members elected for each province, as far as I can determine them by matching the IEC's seat allocation tables with the candidate lists. Any corrections would be welcomed. Adam 00:23, 3 May 2004 (UTC)

Is there any reason not to use the results currently on the IEC website ? It seems to have the corrected figures now. --Soman 12:44, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

38% support for the ANC
The claim that turnout staggered below 60% and that the ANC won reelection with only 38% of the vote is entirely speculative. Officially 76.73% of registered voters endorsed the poll. The sub-60% number is based on census data which includes legal and illegal migrants and non-citizens of voting age in SA. Those who like to belittle South Africa's polity by casting aspersions on the number of citizens who participate in elections are the same kinds of people who like to inflate the numbers of migrants/aliens in the country. Do the math, footnote, or remove the figure. Jonathan


 * I agree that citing the percentage of eligible voters is strange. It gives a more accurate reflection of people's attitudes to state the percentage of people who registered but did not vote.  I don't agree or disagree with your idea that the sub-60% figure was influenced by migrants -- I have no knowledge of that.  Both sources for the 38% figure are calculative and their authors seem unaware of exactly how voter registration in South Africa works.
 * Still, I have no objection to that information being in the article. It can be interesting to also add how many *new* people registered for each election (which differs from the figure of how many people were registered for that election).
 * I also think the positioning of the two sentences "The ANC received support from only about 38% of all eligible voters.[1][2] Some attribute this to voter apathy..." create the impression that 38% is indicative of voter apathy, but none of the cited references for that apathy sentence mentions the 38% figure at all. -- leuce (talk) 22:51, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * "Just 38% (10,877,302) of the entire voting population voted for the ANC." |2. -- Jeandré, 2009-04-25t16:14z

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