Talk:2005 Pacific hurricane season/Archive 2

Accumulated Cyclone Energy
ACE is used in the East Pacific. See here. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 00:36, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

"Accumulated Cyclone Energy or ACE is a measure used by NOAA to express the activity of Atlantic hurricane seasons." -- NS LE  ( Commu nicate! ) < Contribs > 00:47, 4 November 2005 (UTC)


 * ACE can be applied to any basin. See the ACE article. -- Hurricane Eric - my dropsonde - archive 04:11, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Button Bar
What do you people think?

--Pikachu90000 00:32, 27 November 2005 (UTC)


 * No. Perhaps for the Atlantic, where we have storm articles. Not here. NSLE  ( 讨论 + extra ) 00:37, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
 * It looks very good, and I would approve of using it if we had even one extra article about a storm from this season. As it stands, however, everything is on the page and covered by the ToC. - Cuivienen 01:57, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Wait... but there is! I forgot about the Hurricane Adrian page. I think a button bar is a good idea, then. Unfortunately, you'll have to get rid of the "Atlantic" bit on the bar. - Cuivienen 04:45, 28 November 2005 (UTC)


 * It has less usefulness on this page so I'm swaying against it. -- Hurricane Eric - my dropsonde - archive 04:14, 22 December 2005 (UTC)


 * I oppose button bars for EPac seasons because the CPac Hawaiian names may start with the same letters as EPac names. For example, lets say that next year (hypothetically) Hurricane Daniel does enough damage to get an article. That season gets a button bar, right? Well, lets say that Tropical Storm Ileana forms, and the next storm to form is Tropical Storm Ioke. Both never become hurricanes. On the button bar, how is someone supposed to tell the difference between Ileana and Ioke? Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 23:02, 29 December 2005 (UTC)


 * You could separate the CPac from the EPac on the button bar itself and use two letters for the CPac, much like on the 2005 Atlantic button bar, which uses "Un" for the unnamed storm. —Cuivi é nen 22:54, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

New Tropical Cyclone Reports
Irwin and Otis were posted today, here. -- RattleMan 20:57, 18 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Wow, Irwin was (indirectly) linked to Katrina! (The wave that was Atlantic TD10 split off, and part became Katrina, the other part raced to the Pacific and became Irwin) CrazyC83 20:43, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Norma is now up, [http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/2005epac.shtml? here]. -- RattleMan 23:36, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

So is Hilary. CrazyC83 19:08, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Have there been any changes in these>Icelandic Hurricane 22:03, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Todo
Jdorje 21:45, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Intro is to long and contains non-notable details.
 * List of storms is too detailed.
 * The article contains no information other than the list (but maybe since Pacific seasons have no impact, this is the best that can be done).


 * No no no...I already oppose shortening the storm descriptions on the Atlantic season page, not here too where it's the only information you can report! bob rulz 04:58, 20 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Unlike the AHS article, this one is not "too long" as it is. All it lacks is a cohesive thread that ties things together.  So it's not necessary to shorten the storms section drastically - what's needed is some other sections to give an overview of the season.  And the problem with the intro is that the first two sentences, and the entire last paragraph, contain only tedious details that, although they belong in the article, should not be in the introduction. Jdorje 05:16, 20 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Or to put it another way, the least detailed storms of the AHS article (10, Lee, and 22) still had more detail on them than 90% of the storms in this article. So while we can tweak the level of detail within this article, it is not at the level of over-detail that the AHS had reached. Jdorje 05:37, 20 January 2006 (UTC)


 * But really, that's because most of the Pacific storms aren't very notable and therefore don't need a lot of information ;) I know it's pretty much obvious, but we put more info on the Atlantic storm because many of us are from the United States, and most of the tropical systems affecting the United States come from the Atlantic. That makes the Atlantic basin important to us. More importance = more text ;D -- RattleMan 06:09, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Imagery
I uploaded some pacific storm images. If you don't like them or there are some licensing problems simply talk to me, and feel free to delete them. juan andrés 04:56, 24 January 2006 (UTC) (Maybe I should use sandbox first)
 * I took out the Beatriz image because I was hersitating. Put it, or not... Finally I reached to the conclusion to not putting it until someone says me yes, then I'll put it. juan andrés 05:07, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

CPHC Summary
The CPHC has released its 2005 Summary. People in Hawaii were afraid of those hurricanes. And ex-Kenneth caused flash-flooding. Look's like Kenneth's and Jova's reports could be coming out soon. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 23:55, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

1C
I hope that green line doesn't spoil the picture. juan andrés 05:23, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

We don't need pictures for every storm
We *really* don't need pictures for every storm, it makes the article seem too cluttered in my opinion. Only the major storms (Adrian, Jova, Kenneth, Max - for absorbing Lidia) should have pics. NSL E (T+C) 04:47, 7 February 2006 (UTC)


 * For EPac and WPac this is a problem since there are a lot of storms, and many are only worth a couple of sentences. Should storm tracks be included? &mdash; jdorje (talk) 04:57, 7 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Not all the storms, esp. not EPac since most Epacs are fishies. NSL E (T+C) 05:03, 7 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Perhaps a separate gallery should be linked to, like commons2. &mdash; jdorje (talk) 05:22, 7 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I would have thought that significant threats to land, such as Dora and Otis, would be considered "major" storms. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 01:38, 8 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Maybe we need them, but they need to be organized in a template, gallery or somewhat. juan andrés 20:14, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Jova report
Finally a new report is out! Interesting in that its roots are in the same wave that formed the Atlantic Hurricane Maria... CrazyC83 16:18, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

16E or Pilar?
NHC admitts that it could have briefly been a tropical storm. PDF file. Pilar (as I now call it), had an excellent presentation on the satellite imagry. It had an eye feature for crying out loud! (on inhanced infrared imagery). I'm convinced that 16E was Pilar. Can I prove it? No. But I'm convinced I'm right. -- Hurricane Eric - my dropsonde - archive 01:15, 2 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Can't find it on the seasonal summary...  NSLE  ( 讨论 + extra ) 01:20, 2 December 2005 (UTC)


 * The post-season report says it (see PDF link). It goes more in depth. -- Hurricane Eric - my dropsonde - archive 01:29, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

It's report day!
As we get flooded with Atlantic reports, Tropical Storm Greg's report also comes out. CrazyC83 19:43, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Pilar
I was getting a picture for TD 16E on the navy site, and I noticed that with the picture I put on this page, it said 16EPILAR! It also mentioned that it had 35kt winds, and a preassure of 1005mb! Now what should we do? It even looked like a tropical storm in the picture. Are we able to send an email/letter to the NHC telling them this; they may upgrade the storm. Icelandic Hurricane #12 13:46, 26 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Interesting. Usually, Navy sites don't add the names (had this been the case, our storm would have been 16E NONAME, but it's called 16E PILAR). Also, since it was the last storm, there would be no foul in the names. If you haven't, you might want to e-mail the NHC about it. (By the way, I checked 16E's archives on the Navy site. At least 8 photographs of 16E don the identification of 16E PILAR, but it got renamed back to "NONAME" afterward. Was TD16E a Depression or a Tropical Storm?)Jake52


 * Yea, computer models initiated the depression as a tropical storm at around 8 PM EDT, but shortly thereafter convection rapidly diminished. That's from this link, at least. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 02:21, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, the NRL does jump the gun sometimes then? I've suspected as much, but thats proof. Maybe the NHC is overly conservative, but if the NRL does things like that then this edit I made on 2006AHS is certainly correct. Let's try and wait in future...--Nilfanion (talk) 09:52, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Max's Report
The report for Max is out now -- Nilfanion 15:57, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Eugene and Kenneth
The report is finally out! -- §  Hurricane  E  RIC  §Damages archive 18:47, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
 * As is Kenneth's: - 66.66.245.85 21:58, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Track Map
The track map is now out: --Ajm81 04:16, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Can we make the track maps for each storm now? íslenska hurikein #12(samtal) 22:26, 14 June 2006 (UTC)