Talk:2006–07 United States network television schedule

What's A 'SEASON'-?
How about explaining WHEN the 2006-2007 schedule IS? I followed the link b/c I am not a TV genius and never learned my seasons.

Complaint about NBC's lineup
NBC sucks. This new fall lineup is pathetic. It would be funny if it didn't mean that they're canceling the only good shows they had left. No wonder they're the lowest-rated network. I hope all of their new "entertaining" programs fail miserably and are canned within the first five episodes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 146.82.210.35 (talk • contribs).

Univision is missing
As can bee regularly seen in the Los Angeles Times (http://www.calendarlive.com/tv/), Univision (as of the May 24, 2006 rankings) has averaged 3.8 million prime time viewers weekly, more than UPN and WB. Shouldn't Univision's lineup be on this schedule? 66.167.137.56 12:04, 28 May 2006 (UTC).
 * Traditionally, the Spanish-language networks haven't been included in programming grids. I agree it's not very NPOV. At the same time, we don't want to include the really small networks, as the schedule would then grow to mammoth proportions. I don't mind sticking Univision in there. Other opinions?--Firsfron 19:50, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I think a separate page with Univision, Telemundo and Telefutura would be appropriate for the benefit of those viewers.--Desmond Hobson 05:32, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * For now, I noted Univision's omission in the introduction. I don't see a reason for the Spanish language networks to be separate since the article's title is U.S. network schedules, not U.S. English language network schedules. FWIW, the information is easy to uncover and doesn't get out-of-date any faster than the English language networks.  Thanks. , f.k.a.  22:14, 8 June 2006 (UTC).
 * A year later, Univision remains omitted, and ratings show Telemundo outdraws MyNetwork TV. I documented this omission with changes to the introduction (citing references) and marked it with the templates appropriate for the situation.  72.244.206.123 10:17, 2 February 2007 (UTC).
 * Frankly, I think we should be including Univision in the schedules because recent ratings show it outdrawing The CW network, and The CW has more coverage than Univision. If they had about the same coverage as CBS, ABC, and NBC, they would be in the thick of the season ratings title.208.107.168.154 06:39, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I disagree with the previous statement. Univision's coverage includes all of the main Spanish language areas.  There is no way Univision would garner any serious ratings by having a station in New Hampshire, Wisconsin, North Dakota, etc.
 * Quite frankly, it's debatable at best whether Univision should even be included. For now at least, I've removed the tag... Ranma9617 06:53, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Those areas without a local over-the-air Univision affiliate are usually served by the national network cable/satellite feed however, and many watch the network through this, probably as many as through over-the-air stations (I don't know the numbers, but I'm sure they're on par with mid-tier cable networks if broken apart from the combined number). I think it should be included within the grid, though separated out under a second heading called Spanish language networks that could also include Telemundo and Telefutura. Nate 07:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I can't believe what NBC did!
NBC must have absolutely no faith in its prime time lineup. Why else would they change all but the weekend nights' lineups only 10 days after making the original upfront presentation? I don't know the name of the president of NBC Entertainment (Jeff Zucker?), but I bet he doesn't last past next February.--Desmond Hobson 05:32, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Saturday morning separation
Why are there separate articles for Saturday programming? The main articles are titled television schedule—not prime time television schedule (or evening television schedule. Shouldn't they all be merged?  —EncMstr 09:23, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Celebrity Duets
According to TV Guide, Celebrity Duets is not considered part of the fall season. What source are you using for FOX's fall schedule? --Dleav 19:06, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

2006 and 2007 schedules on the same page?
I don't like it. It's ugly and confusing, plus there's no reason to think that Fox and NBC won't make changes - the last two years, what FOX put on in January had little relation to the original lineup. Lambertman 01:52, 10 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I would concur, and point to the following introductory sentence (emphasis added)
 * This is the upcoming United States broadcast television schedule for the six largest English language commercial television networks in the Fall season beginning September 2006.
 * Listing the shows airing beginning in January is an admirable feat, but doesn't fit with the purpose of these articles (historically). Perhaps it's time to start creating separate autumn and winter articles to handle September and January.  Sahasrahla 12:58, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Perhaps we could create a table or list of midseason replacements on the networks. --Dleav 17:00, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I propose listing the Fall 2006 and Spring 2007 schedules in seperate tables. List the fall shows first and the Spring shows afterward.  It is messy showing both together.  BuffaloChip97 16:47, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

CW Sunday Midseason
One show that will appear midseason on the CW on Sundays is Reba. I don't know the time slot yet, but please make a note of it in your extreme ambition to create season info that hasn't been confirmed. --Dleav 12:47, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Caveats
here's the version of the introductory paragraph I just added:
 * The following is the United States broadcast television schedule for five of the most popular English language commercial television networks for the 2006 fall season. This represents the schedule as announced by the networks earlier in the year.   Because new series and season premieres of previous shows are rolled out gradually over several weeks, and because new shows can be cancelled quickly (sometimes after only one episode is aired), this schedule may not be accurate for any specific week.  This is particular true for shows which were scheduled to start in 2007.

This article could go one of two ways: (1) it could be updated every week, representing that week's version of a network's schedule, or (2) it can be characterized as a snapshot of each network's schedule as defined back in May? when networks pitch their plans to advertisers. It could also go a third way: updated in a haphazard fashion, with some changes along the way. To avoid the latter, I drafted the introduction you see above. 66.167.253.184 04:50, 24 September 2006 (UTC).


 * Ah, should have read this before I updated with NBC's Friday night schedule change. You may wish to revert it back, although Crossing jordan likely nver will air in the Friday at 8 timeslot. Lambertman 22:11, 27 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Of course, you can write any introduction you want to explain your vision for a page, but in the long run, people are going to do whatever they want to the page, anyway. Sigh. Lambertman 13:40, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

NBC = idiots?
Well, Studio 60, i think its one of the best new shows... but it might be cancelled bcuz of bad ratings, right? But how is the show gonna get high ratings if they put it up agianst CSI Miami...? Very bad move for a very good show


 * I don't understand why everyone seems to think that each network can put every show into a timeslot with no competition. It has to go somewhere, and chances are it's going to face a hit show wherever it goes - especially since Saturdays are dead, and the contract required them to air it at 9 or 10 Monday-Thursday only. Lambertman 18:40, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes but it is falling to What About Brian also. And it declines every week.


 * Which goes to show it's not just the timeslot that's the problem. Lambertman 20:33, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I just think it's the best new show this fall... and it whould have been better off on tuesdays... when its dead right now --chandler 12:44, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Fall, Spring and MyNetworkTV
Technically, 2 series will run on MNTV in the fall and 2 in the spring. Should we list them together in the same table or make a note somewhere?--Dleav 12:55, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Tag removed
It looks like the cancellations and pickups section is well-researched, so I have removed the tag.--Desmond Hobson 22:27, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Trends and analysis?
The section looks plagiarized.

How would it be plagerized? The person made their assumptions about the networks and put it here. Please put it back.

There isn't one reference in this entire section. It seems to be a textbook violation of no original research. Since it will always exist in history, I'm going to remove this section with the expectation that referenced portions will be re-added. SuperMachine 21:05, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Colors
Is it just me, or does anyone else find the extensive palette of colors used on this page excessive and distracting? It is hard to keep track of the colors throughout the entire article, and I think we should alter this policy so that we don't confuse readers. If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 03:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Other times
I am from Australia, and from this article, am asuming that TV in the USA doesn't broadcast outside of 7:00pm to 11:00pm. Am I mistaken? 220.240.113.179 01:55, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

ANSWERS to Some of the Above
1. What's a season? Generally, the official television season begins in mid-September and finishes at the end of May. It's during this period when shows air mostly new episodes, especially on the broadcast networks ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, MYTV and The CW.

3. Univision is missing. Univision and Telemundo can have a separate Spanish section, just as Saturday morning schedules are separate from the primetime ones. The broadcast network primetime schedules should be restricted to only broadcast networks, not cable ones, for consistency's sake. If Univision were added to the broadcast lineup, then before you know it, some rinky-dink local station in the Nevada desert will want its lineup displayed too. The madness needs to be defined before the madness slips into insanity.

5. Saturday morning separation. Yes, Saturday morning should be separated from primetime and other day and night periods. Perhaps the main articles should be titled as such: Television Schedules: Primetime / Television Schedules: Saturday Morning / Television Schedules: Weekday / etc.

6. Celebrity Duets. It's not officially a fall entry, but it still aired throughout September before the World Series and before the very late starting regular time slot occupants The O.C. and Trading Spouses returned in November. But it's no longer listed.

7. 2006 and 2007 schedules on the same page? Yes, I find this annoying too. Some system should be put in place whereby these lineups are appropriately divided by categories rather than trying to lump everything in one page. Which is another argument against adding Univision and other cable networks along with broadcast networks on the same schedules.

8. CW Sunday mid-season. Reba has been added in the follow-up schedules.

11. Fall, Spring and MyNetwork TV. Seems the MyNetwork TV lineups have been added too.

14. Colors. Yes, color overkill is very distracting in the schedules. The fewer the colors used, the more eye-friendly the grids are.

15. Other times. The 7-11 p.m. time frame of the schedules is primetime, when most viewers are watching and when competition among the networks is at its most intense, as it always has been. TV in America does air before 7 and after 11 p.m. but daytime and late-night programming is generally comprised of talk shows and soaps aimed at women, kids' shows or, on weekends, all kinds of sports events. In fact, TV airs 24 hours a day 7 days a week in the U.S., but primetime is where all the ratings action is with first-run high-profile comedies, dramas, specials and other types of weekly series.

Uniquester 02:29, 6 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Hear, hear! If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 08:57, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Information
It would be helpful if:
 * 1) Key info (like what the various colours indicate) appeared at the top of the grids.
 * 2) The intro explained a bit about US TV - and in particular that this is only showing the Prime Time programmes, as the arrangement seems very unusual to me and I think most people from outside the US. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.70.37.180 (talk) 12:18, 14 February 2007 (UTC).

Change seasons to months
It is very confusing for us simple folk south of the equator to have to keep working out what months you are talking about when you say fall or spring etc. Can someone who knows please add the relavant months to this (and other) page(s) Shniken 09:07, 2 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Added a cleanup tag to this article so someone might come and change the seasons into months, or at the very least add relevant dates.Shniken 01:00, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Different Sections
Is the best way to handle this article really to divide it into fall, follow-up, and winter/spring sections? I've looked at some of the other TV schedule pages from before, and I think that it is much less confusing then.

2007-08 Season
Does anyone know when the 07-08 season grid will be reveled? 195.92.168.165 15:09, 6 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Between May 14 and 17. Lambertman 16:32, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Top 20 shows for the 2006-07 television season
Here are the highest-rated programmes in the "survival game" known as the 2006-07 television season:


 * 1. American Idol-Wednesday (FOX)
 * 2. American Idol-Tuesday (FOX)
 * 3. Dancing With the Stars-fall (ABC)
 * 4. CSI (CBS)
 * 5. Dancing With the Stars-spring (ABC)
 * 6. Dancing With the Stars Results-fall (ABC)
 * 7. Grey's Anatomy (ABC)
 * 8. House (FOX)
 * 9. Dancing With the Stars Results-spring (ABC)
 * 10. Desparate Housewives (ABC)
 * 11. Sunday Night Football (NBC)
 * 12. CSI:NY (CBS)
 * 13. Survivor: Cook Islands (CBS)
 * 14. Deal or No Deal-Monday (NBC)
 * 15. Without a Trace (CBS)
 * 16. Survivor: Fiji (CBS)
 * 17. NCIS (CBS)
 * 18. Two and a Half Men (CBS)
 * 19. Cold Case (CBS)
 * 20. Lost (ABC)

Show #1 will be colored in lime. Shows 2 through 10 will be colored in yellow. Shows 11 through 20 will be colored in cyan

Number of top-rated programs for a network:
 * ABC-7
 * CBS-8
 * NBC-2
 * FOX-3

Question:Does American Idol violate the rule that no midseason replacement should get #1 in the ratings?

An answer to this question will come someday. Jim856796 17:52, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

This article is an organizational mess
Am I the only person who see the problem with the following? From the "Cancellations and Pickups" section it will say the following: The Class- Announced on May 16, 2007 that it was not renewed for another season. and then about four or five "page downs" later: The Class has been extended to 19 episodes. It is confusing since (at least I) expected the article to be organized somewhat chronologically. The article mixes and matches information about what was picked up/not picked up to complete the 2006-07 season and what was picked up/not picked up for the following 2007-08 season. It is an disorganized mess. —SterlingNorth 06:24, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

i fixed it a little

Delete?
I think the summer schedule should be deleted. Anyone else have an opinion? --Yankeesrj12 (talk) 21:33, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Shows by Network
The shows aren't by network in this schedule and started in 2007—08. I think we should add the shows by network in this schedule, as well as the ones previously. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.37.41.158 (talk) 00:25, 21 July 2011 (UTC)