Talk:2007 Australian football code crowds

I'm going to add the 2007 Asian Champions League in. If the Rugby can be here, as an international club competition, the ACL home games should be as well.Tancred 13:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * From http://svc002.wic113cx.server-web.com/News/MatchReports/MatchReportsArticle/tabid/336/NewsId/4217/Default.aspx and http://svc002.wic113cx.server-web.com/News/MatchReports/MatchReportsArticle/tabid/336/NewsId/4195/Default.aspx. Do not accuse me of vandalism when it is obviously not.
 * Those pages list exact crowd figures. The stats you added to the article were estimations.  I'm curious as to why you would use an estimation when the exact figure is available.. -- Chuq 12:36, 22 March 2007 (UTC)


 * For a start, perhaps you could register a username and not jump around an IP pool. If you don't wish to be accused of vandalism, why did you not use the accurate figures?  Why did you not also update the list of matches played?Tancred 12:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I think this page should only include AFL, NRL, A-League and when it starts the ARC. It gets silly when people put asian champions league, state of origin, yet omit wallabies, kangaroos and international friendly soccer matches - where does one draw the line?

I'm willing to fully update the page if that's the agreed upon format. I could make a sub section making reference to all other football matches played on Australian soil. Mike2680 06:11, 10 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I think this page should be for listing club crowds. The teams taking part in the ACL and Super14 are club sides so should be listed. I argee that  international football, rugby and league games should not be listed.Tancred 08:57, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

If it's for listing club crowds, then it shouldn't be called "Australian football code attendences" - Socceroos games are as much football games as A-league games, and wallabies games are as much rugby union games as Super 14. Ignoring international crowds does not give football and rugby union the respect they deserve, as international games are a big part of those sports - just because AFL has no representitive aspect doesn't mean other codes should be listed in this area. BTW State of Origin is represetitive as well - if it is included so should Socceroos and wallabies games.

Sooo out of date
This article is really wildly out of date. I suspect that this is because the table is difficult to edit and so people aren’t bothering. Is there an easier way to do the main table? Something like a WYSIWYG editor that can handle tables and automatically sort them by crowd size would be nice… Dibo T 01:37, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Agreed, either someone needs to set up a system where games can just be put in easily or this topic should be deleted...

By the way, as the topic is Australian football code crowds, any football (any form of football) game that is played should be included, like Socceroos and Wallabies matches (played in Australia) as these are the major matches for these codes.
 * I've tried to simplify it a bit by using a template and having a sortable table. It should help.--Squilibob 03:08, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Im starting to go through the AFL, rd by rd and adding the crowds to the main table. Next year ill try and do it each week. Ill only update the table on wed,thur,fri morn in order to stop clashes with someone else editing at the same time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.68.57.234 (talk) 14:08, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

A-League updating progress
So editors can tell at a glance the status of A-League updates I propose a list is kept.

Current status: As of 15/1 all matches up to Round 20 are done. Dibo T 02:57, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Automatic table is incorrect
When it first loads up, it is sorted by average, but Adelaide appears below Carlton, even though Adelaide's average crowd is higher .... --Rulesfan 00:42, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not an automatic table. The only thing that is automatic is the individual rows. --Squilibob 07:48, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

National Teams
Should Wallaby crowds be added in there as well, considering that the SOO is also on the list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.165.69.66 (talk) 06:58, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Wallabies are a national team, currently the list has state and local teams. SoO is two state teams. --Squilibob 10:43, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

The Wallabies, like the state of origin teams are a representitive team, they should be included, as should the Socceroos. If you want otherwise, you are obviously a NRL/AFL supporter trying to ignore one of the areas where football and rugby union have an advantage over NRL and the AFL.

Sources!
Where are they? Bongomanrae 13:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Two entries for Sydney and Adelaide FC ?
Why ? I understand that they play in two separate competition/leagues, but they are the same club. Their attendances should be aggregated and averaged based on the total number of home games.

And this begs the question, should the AFL include NAB Cup home ground attendances, as the NAB Cup has a greater total and average attendance than both the ACL and the ARC ? --Spewmaster 05:48, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


 * The 2 entries for SFC and AUFC are for different competitions. The ACl is played midweek, against teams from Asia.  The ACL is a different competition and should be listed as it currently is, not aggregated into one entry.

Yes I agree in both cases - there should be average competition attendances, and then there should be home attendances which include home matches in all competitions.

I think it should both total average (including different competitions like NAB Cup, AFL Finals, ACL) and seperate averages for each competition should be listed - clubs should be ranked by their total average, and then the average attendances by competition should be listed - something like this:

High/low attendances
Do you think we should add a highest and lowest section attendance section to the table, or do you think its better getting people to look at the list of games.

Also, i agree that SoO should not be included in this table, as it is more of a representative team than a domestic team. It should only be clubs that are included in this table, which means that soccer can have all their different championships, and the NRL can have its annual game against the superleague winner included as well.InsteadOf (talk) 21:24, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't see why we shouldn't include all representitive teams - the page is called "australian football code crowds", and the Socceroos, Wallabies and Kangaroos are certainly part of the Australian football codes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.168.108.56 (talk) 15:50, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Changes
I've made a few changes to this page, which I belive makes it work a lot better - there is a section directly comparing the different codes, the colour coding is now done by sport, rather than by competition. The Wallabies and Socceroos are now included, and it is now easy to add other national teams (such as the Kangaroos if someone wanted to do this). Even exhibition and friendly matches can be included. This gives a much better overall picture of how attendances for the different codes compare. I plan to do the 2008 version of the article in the same format - any comments would be appreciated... --Mattwinter (talk) 10:34, 12 February 2008 (UTC)