Talk:2008 Chinese winter storms/Archive 1

Kudos!
Kudos to JForget for a B-class article on the first draft! Vechs (talk) 22:59, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Wuhan city or Hubei province?
The article states that "For instance, in Wuhan Province, up to 100,000 people were out of running water' but Wuhan is not a province, but rather the capital of Hubei Province. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TriangleFish (talk • contribs) 05:26, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Photos

 * Half million people stranded in the square in front of Guangzhou railway station. (2008 Feb 1) Python eggs (talk) 07:57, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Here are some great free photos licensed Creative Commons. Python eggs (talk) 08:08, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Images
Hi. Can we take some images to use here from the Chinese Wikipedia, such as the one with snow in Shanghai, and the map of affected areas (will need to be translated and significantly updated)? Thanks. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 22:16, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Both done~ – Peter CX &amp;Talk 17:39, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Death toll
I'm pretty much sure that 63 deaths is an under-estimation now. A recent BBC article mentions that at least 60 died from the cold. Add the 36 killed from the two bus crashes and others more due to shoveling and roof collapses, it would be certain to mention that the toll is at least 100 as of now.-- JForget 18:24, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Article has a lack of factual information
This article discusses the event with a lot of abstractness, citing only a string of effects that it had on the economy. In the same way an earthquake article includes Richter scale and location information, this article needs some hard information too. -Rolypolyman (talk) 19:08, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Transportation
I read an AP article saying that the corrals for the line of people seeking train travel were 3 football fields large (had to be constructed by the military) and people carried children on their shoulders so the children could breathe better. Also to get on the train people were carrying luggage and children over their heads as to get in as fast as possible. Is this appopriate information for wikipedia or just unneeded anectdotes?--Exander (talk) 07:23, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I think that could be a very interesting fact for the article as long as you have a source for it. Juliancolton (talk) 13:46, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Information

 * It's not just central and southern China, everywhere in China is affected by the weather except for the North, Northeast, Yunnan and Tibet, so it should be "eastern, southern, central, and western China are affected."


 * In the box, it says affected areas are "Hubei, Henan, Shandong, Jiangsu, Anhui, Shanghai". That's inaccurate. Shandong is not affected, or at least not seriously affected. While many other severe areas, such as Jiangxi, Guizhou, and so on, are not mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.107.94.87 (talk) 23:35, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


 * How many people affected: at least 100 million


 * One million polie officers mobilized


 * Dead: at least 60


 * Stranded: 5.8 million rail passengers


 * Cost of damages: $7.5 billion


 * Refunds: About 11 million of the 19 million migrant workers in Guangdong have received refunds


 * $700 million relief fund for farmers


 * Troops deployed: 500,000


 * Medics and Nurses mobilized: 140,000


 * Coal shortages in ? provinces


 * Blackouts in 17 provinces: affected 30 million people (42 megawatts lost)


 * More than 160 cities and counties are still suffering power and water shortages


 * Snow in Taklamakan desert


 * Vegetable prices have surged in 11 provinces, doubling some areas, -- due to transport delays


 * ?? vehicles with ?? passengers remain stranded


 * 200,000+ treated for injuries —Preceding unsigned comment added by Karloffman (talk • contribs) 02:13, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

knife fights on trains
someone please ad this info

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/02/04/china.train.ap/index.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.241.245.136 (talk) 02:20, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Deleted
Just FYI, I deleted One of the titles labeled "Electrical Problems and other Issues" as there was no content underneath it.166.70.133.66 (talk) 00:05, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Deleted Image
The top image described as, "Ice storm severity near Wuhan University" is in fact from an ice storm in Switzerland in 2005. Please see http://www.snopes.com/photos/natural/icestorm.asp. I have deleted the image, please upload a relevant image. TheSlowLife (talk) 00:49, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Image Remove
The Image:ChinasnowstormFeb2008.jpg 2008 snow storm picture will be removed from wikimedia commons. The author admits it was not actually near Wuhan university. Please do not put it back. Benjwong (talk) 01:23, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Images
Here are a few images my family took in Anhui during Jan 2008, feel free to use them if you feel it is necessary to do so. Regards, --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs 09:51, 19 February 2009 (UTC)


 * A new, whole series of my photos are available from the gallery at User:Benlisquare/Gallery. --  李博杰    | —Talk contribs email guestbook complaints 05:14, 19 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Do you need help uploading these to wikicommons? Once you put the pictures up there with you as the author, just add "Category: 2008 Chinese winter storms". Benjwong (talk) 03:48, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No, I don't have issues with Commons. I just don't want to put them on Commons, because then I have to go through the trouble of OTRS tickets. These photos were taken by my family members. Under W.Commons policy, I need an OTRS ticket. --  李博杰    | —Talk contribs email guestbook complaints 04:06, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * If it is a picture you take with your camera, then you don't have to go through OTRS. Just use "PD-self" license. You can look at this picture summary. Benjwong (talk) 04:15, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

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