Talk:2008 Football League Championship play-off final/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: BennyOnTheLoose (talk · contribs) 18:47, 28 May 2020 (UTC)


 * GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):  d (copyvio and plagiarism):
 * Checked all matches above 2% on Earwig's Copyvio tool. No concerns.
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * Pass/Fail:

Happy to discuss, or be challenged on, any of my comments. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:49, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

General
 * A Short description could be added.
 * Done. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 20:39, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Infobox
 * Is there a reason not to have a picture caption? My reading of WP:INFOBOXIMAGE is that is preferable to include one. The WikiProject Football MOS for matches doesn't seem to be explicit. I don't have experience with football articles, so if no caption is common practice, that's fine.
 * Done. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 20:39, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Weather could be added here.
 * Done. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 20:39, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Route to the final Match Post-match
 * "one places and one point ahead" - how about "one point and one place ahead" (as placing is determined by points). (There's a stray "s" at the moment.)
 * Done. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 20:39, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * "Bristol City faced Crystal Palace in their play-off semi-final" - suggest adding date (for first leg) for this and for Hull City v Watford.
 * Done. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 20:39, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * "to halve Watford's deficit but Barmby equalised before half time" - consider adding a word or two to show it was the deficit across the matches that was halved.
 * Done. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 08:08, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I can't see either of the cited sources verifying that the attendance was 86,703.
 * Addressed. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 22:33, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * "before Folan's shot was deflected before being cleared" - this is OK but consider a reword to remove one of the befores.
 * Addressed. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 22:33, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Should the match rules require a citation?
 * Addressed. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 22:33, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The table looks slightly odd on my laptop browser, as though the Bristol team names should be to the right a bit, more under the kit diagram, but that might be either my setup or just the way that the template is.
 * No idea, there's no bespoke formatting. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 22:33, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * OK BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:28, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Why did Brown say it was "very fitting that Dean Windass got the winning goal"? Is it because Windass is from Hull?
 * Don't know why someone said what they said!! You're probably right but that would be speculation. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 22:33, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I should have taken a bit more time with that one … asking if there was a known reliable source to provide context. But he said what he said, says the source, so no issue here. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:28, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Sources
 * 11v11.com (2007-08 table) ✔️
 * Soccerway ✔️
 * Hughes, Ian (10 May 2008) ✔️
 * Harlow, Phil (13 May 2008) ✔️
 * McKenzie, Andrew (11 May 2008) ✔️
 * McNulty, Phil (14 May 2008) ✔️
 * Sporting Life ✔️
 * Briggs, Daniel (14 May 2016) ✔️ (It's on a particular club's site but nothing exceptional or controversial is being verified here)
 * BBC Sport. 30 May 2004 ✔️
 * BBC Sport. 16 May 2001 ✔️
 * 11v11.com (Bristol City 2008) ✔️
 * McKenzie, Andrew (24 May 2008) ✔️
 * Widdicombe, Josh (24 May 2008) ✔️ (I did pause over "according to people that know a lot more about football club finances than me")
 * ESPN ✔️
 * BBC Sport. 26 May 2008 ✔️
 * 11v11.com. (2008-09 Premier table) ✔️
 * 2009-10 (League table) ✔️


 * responded above, thanks. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 22:33, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * thanks for all your work on this article and for making the amendments. There is one point under route to the final that hasn't been replied to, but that's not a required change, and I'm happy to pass the article for GA. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:28, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Cool, thanks, sorry I missed that last point which I've now addressed. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 08:08, 29 May 2020 (UTC)