Talk:2008 Pacific typhoon season/Archive 1

Neoguri article
Just to let you know, I have a Neoguri article in sandbox - User:Hurricanehink/Sandbox2. I was planning on publishing it (after some more work) once the storm was declared dissipated, but in case we need it while it's active I'm getting it ready. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 18:16, 16 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I think it might be better if you name the JMA advisories by their date and time rather than a count of the advisories issued (for instance, 16/0000 is labeled "Tropical Cyclone Advisory 09"). -- RattleMan 18:43, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes i agree it would be better as we then keep a track of what advisories are being used rather than reering them to number 1 etc Jason Rees (talk) 22:36, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Also, at the beginning of the article you list PAGASA's name as "Typhoon Ambo". However, the highest designation PAGASA used while Neoguri was still in its AoR was Tropical Storm. Perhaps remove "Typhoon" and just leave "Ambo"? -- RattleMan 01:46, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 02:14, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Template usage
Is there any reason we are using HurricaneActive as opposed to Infobox hurricane current? What are the differences between the two? The reason I'm bringing it up is that I tried to add an image to the article, but it wouldn't work for the one in the article. Here is the image I uploaded - I know it's not the best, but we don't have anything yet. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 01:10, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The first one is used when there is no image and the second one for when there is an image. - CWY2190    ( talk  •  contributions )  03:44, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Typhoons
I saw on the internet that there is a typhoon misawa or kadena, but the Jma doesn't say that. Does anyone know what is happening. --*****Joan97******Active Storms 21:10, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It is a practice exercise. There is no such storm. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 21:12, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict) Those were four fake typhoons that the JTWC used as exercises. -- RattleMan 21:15, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Wow surprise people got confused by this.. anyway anyone know what storms if any struck Kadena, Misawa, Sasebo, Yokota Air/Navy Bases that were super typhoons as this test are tracking? -- グリフオーザー (talk) 07:24, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

PAGASA Tropical Depression Butchoy
PAGASA has recently upgraded a low-pressure area east of Mindanao to a tropical depression now named "Butchoy". For more information, kindly click here please. -Pika ten10 (talk) 04:31, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


 * As an aside, you cannot WebCite PAGASA advisories normally. To WebCite PAGASA advisories, go to the TCUPDATE page, download the file to your computer by saving it, open the file up with a text editor like Notepad, find the text "" near the top and remove it, save the file and upload it to a hosting service, then WebCite the file on your hosting service. -- RattleMan 05:56, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Useage of a Forecast Predictions section
I created this section as it could prove slightly useful. Does anyone agree that we should use this for this article for JUST this season to see if its succesful. If it is a roll out amongst the others could be useful.

86.12.213.2 (talk) 16:36, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

JTWC systems not yet a tropical storm by JMA
IMO 04W should be listed in the official storms section, since it had been accessed by JMA as a TD,. --213.155.231.26 (talk) 15:54, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Nope as 04W has not yet been assigned a name. As soon as it has it will be placed in the storms section Jason Rees (talk) 16:19, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes but that does not make sense. If we do the system where when The NHC call a tropical depression it gets listed in the Atlantic. Why not here? Itfc+canes=me (talk) 16:28, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Because the NHC numbers depressions. The JMA doesn't assign a number or name until it becomes a storm. -  CWY2190    ( talk  •  contributions )  17:14, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


 * For the record, PASAGA's Cosme and JTWC's TD 04W are the same storm and don't need two seperate sections. -- Hurricane ERIC - Class of '08: XVII Maius MMVIII 22:29, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Cosme is 95W and TD04W is 96W. -- RattleMan 22:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

PAGASA's Importance
I think we're including too much information from PAGASA. JMA and JTWC are regional leaders, but PAGASA is not--it simply serves one country. JMA is the RSMC for the basin, while JTWC serves four countries in the basin and is the only forecast authority to work with one-minute averages comparable to other U.S. basins. JTWC's intensities are also comparable to SSHS and other 10-minute average basins in terms of satellite analyses. PAGASA, meanwhile, has limited geographical coverage (compared to China, South Korea or Taiwan), and is included here only because of its domestic naming scheme. I think we should keep it that way and only lists upgrades from LPA to TD (i.e. when a name is assigned)--not TD to TS or leaving PAR, which have no international significance. HkCaGu (talk) 06:03, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Acttully i agree we are including to much infomation. The only information we need from PAGASA is when they Name a Tropical depression and Damages. The only Circumstance that i can that we reqire more information from PAGASA is when they name a TD but the JTWC & the JMA do not monitor the storm. As for other NMHS (ie GUAM, Korea, HKO Etc) their information should only be included in the article as and when there is a storm in their AOR that develops but the JMA & JTWC do not Recognise the system Jason Rees (talk) 17:18, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Not sure how this started. In the past, only the link to PAGASA and name was included.  The details of the advisory should not be included. -  CWY2190    ( talk  •  contributions )  17:29, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes but it could help people as sometimes the "smaller" group of forecasters give more accurate forecasts as they are under slightly less pressure. Anyway i thought we were trying to develop these articles a bit more than last season.

Itfc+canes=me (talk) 19:12, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Don't get rid - Update

 * I would like to say a huge thanks to whoever deleted the forecast predictions section. It should stay there - Just because it was out of date does not mean it should be got-rid of. Itfc+canes=me (talk) 19:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

JMA now monitors Tropical Storm Matmo (0803) as a low
I've seen the JMA page and noticed a remnant low from 0803. (See it here) Can I put that new info??? -Pika ten10 (talk) 02:15, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Using the information located in the logs at the top of the page, you can update the storm history, noting that the JMA issued their final advisory as a developed low. -- RattleMan 03:46, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Citation templates
This article uses bare references when it should be using citation templates. It is much easier to use them in the first place, than to convert them later. It is important because it keeps the access date easily available. Also long urls are not shown, so they don't run into one another, making the bottom of the page illegible. Potapych (talk) 04:16, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The article doesn't suit its new graphics. Who said you could do that?