Talk:2009–10 Newcastle United F.C. season

How about using collapsible boxes?
The match list uses  for match details. How would it be to use  instead? This displays just the date, teams, score and venue with a "show" link to expand the match details (time, scorers and so on). I've an illustration with just a few matches (including fictional scores, etc) here, what do people think? Tonywalton Talk 10:13, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I've gone ahead and been bold and done it. Please feel free to revert to non-collapsible boxes if this is offensive to you, but if you do don't forget to reinstate the separators between the boxes (which the footballbox template doesn't supply but the collapisible version does). Tonywalton Talk 23:44, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You'll have to delete the football fixtures for league one. According to Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football/Archive_20, the fixtures are copyrighted. If you want, delete the fixtures but save the template so you can add the results when the matches are played (results aren't copyrighted).Mofs (talk) 13:08, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * These are not copyrightable, the discussion you link to is out of date. See the Guardian link posted below. --Thomas B&#9816; talk 04:49, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Copyright violation
Having the list of Championship fixtures on this page is against copyright laws so I think they need to be removed as soon as possible. Big Dom  12:38, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You can't copyright a list of events in the US, can you really engage in such abject nonsense in the UK? --Thomas B&#9816; talk 16:52, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
 * This suggests no: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2004/nov/10/football.business --Thomas B&#9816; talk 16:54, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No, the fixture lists are still subject to copyright and I have removed them. --Jameboy (talk) 01:15, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Further evidence that these are not copyrightable can be found here (PDF), in a comprehensive analysis of the rulings on the copyrightability of databases, specifically those on football fixtures, produced by the DG in Brussels. I'm not sure why you find your mere assertion more persuasive than third party evidence. Can you explain why I should believe you over the ECJ, perhaps with recourse to independent support? --Thomas B&#9816; talk 18:59, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

About your Third Opinion request: I've removed the 3O banner template, since no request for a third opinion has been made at the WP:3O page. If a 3O is still desired, please follow the instructions there.  T RANSPORTER M AN  ( TALK ) 22:50, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

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