Talk:2009 Brazil and Paraguay blackout

Article name
As the blackout also affected most of Paraguay, should the article be moved to something like 2009 Brazil and Paraguay blackout? --Carioca (talk) 21:06, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Done it. ӣicҟin \\ talk with me \\ \\\\\\\\  22:11, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi. Thanks. --Carioca (talk) 22:16, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Water problems
No metion of the water problems that happened today? A large part of São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro is without water because of the blackout. I think it's notable enough to be put in the article.--Ace Oliveira (talk) 12:07, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Photo
This article could reall do with a photo of one of the affected cities during the blackout.  - ARC Gritt TALK  00:14, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * inb4 black.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.139.144.14 (talk) 09:58, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Slashdot doesn't think so
http://it.slashdot.org/story/09/11/09/0012226/Massive-Power-Outages-In-Brazil-Caused-By-Hackers 96.240.113.171 (talk) 01:57, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Citation for list of affected states
November 11, 2009 article from a Brazilian news site: http://g1.globo.com/Noticias/Brasil/0,,MUL1375535-5598,00-APAGAO+FOI+PROVOCADO+POR+RAIOS+CHUVA+E+VENTO+FORTES+DIZ+LOBAO.html

About halfway down the page, under the heading "Sabia tudo que ocorreu durante o apagão" ("Know everything that happened during the blackout"), click the tab "Estados afetados" ("Affected states") for a map with the states labeled and color-coded. --Albert LaFrance (talk) 04:39, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Number of transmission lines affected
This press release on the web site of Brazil's National System Operator states that the three 750 KV [AC] lines and the [single] DC line from the Itaipu hydroelectric plant disconnected:

http://www.ons.org.br/download/sala_imprensa/nov2009-notaimprensa.pdf --Albert LaFrance (talk) 04:51, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

How much was Paraguay affected?
The leading sentence says that this blackout was "a power outage that occurred throughout much of Brazil and parts of Paraguay." However, the Affected Regions section explains with two Spanish references that, as for Paraguay, "all of the country's territory was affected by the blackout." These look contradictory to each other. How much of Paraguay's territory did the blackout affect? --Occhanikov (talk) 05:05, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I read many news reports yesterday, and nearly all said that all of Paraguay was affected (,, , and ) for about 20 minutes  or (30 minutes ). The only article I read the said only parts of Paraguay were affected was from a dubious, early source, though it also specified that power was restored at "6:17pm PST". --189.33.14.179 (talk) 15:09, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I decided to change the Wikipedia article to match all these, but left out precise information of the duration of the blackout.--189.33.14.179 (talk) 15:42, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for detailed research! I have accordingly fixed the Japanese-translated version of this article. --Occhanikov (talk) 16:50, 15 November 2009 (UTC)