Talk:2009 UEFA Champions League final

Idiot
I deleted the comment "Last years runners up Chelsea F.C will be determined to win the trophy and get revenge on Manchester united F.C" which was left by a idiot. Y2J RKO (talk) 23:40, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow, Nostradamus denied by poor refereeing?--EchetusXe (talk) 15:34, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

2009 UEFA Champions League final logo
Instead of a picture of the Stadio Olimpico, there should be a logo for the final like the one I found here:
 * 2009 UEFA Champions League final logo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.111.67.200 (talk) 00:38, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. – PeeJay 18:09, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you. 76.111.67.200 (talk) 23:04, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

'Home' and 'Away' Teams
Have UEFA indicated which team will be the "home" team. As the United kit will clash with the Barca kit one team will obviously have to wear an alternate kit. Couldnt see anything in the article about it. You'd think Barca would have to wear the away kit with United being defending Champions and all? Ck786 (talk) 02:08, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The draw for the quarter-finals, semi-finals and final indicated that the winners of semi-final 2 (Barcelona v Chelsea) would be considered the "home" team. And according to article 18.03 of the UEFA Champions League regulations, both teams wear their home colours, unless there is a clash, in which case the "away" team has to wear alternate colours. – PeeJay 12:20, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Do they have to wear their home colors though? I may be wrong, but I thought AC Milan chose to wear their alternate whites in 2007 against Liverpool, despite being the designated home team. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackk6784 (talk • contribs) 21:31, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes the home team gets to choose which kit they want, Milan wanted white (because they had pre-2005 never lost a final with white kits, but twice with red-black kits) and Liverpool wanted red (for similar reasons), the same scenario in both 2005 and 2007 chandler ··· 21:36, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * UEFA regulation 18.03 reads "For the final, both teams may wear their home colours. However, if there is a clash, the team designated as the “away” team must wear alternative colours. If a clash still exists and the team officials are unable to agree, the UEFA administration will decide on the colours." That seems to indicate that Barcelona do have a choice, but there is no suggestion that they will opt to wear yellow (especially since they wore yellow the last time they lost a final to Manchester United). Manchester United will therefore wear white, as their first choice away kit for European competition would also clash with Barcelona's home kit. – PeeJay 21:59, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not doubting Barcelona will wear their home kit, though they have won European Cups with yellow kits :) I think Milan is sort of a special case just because they have this good run in white, plus it does look very good (I love the 94 one personally, almost cocky without the club crest on the shirt, just the scudetto :D) while the current lime yellow doesnt. chandler ··· 22:31, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Knockout stage table
Does anyone think that the knockout stage table in the "Road to the final" section is actually of any use? Both teams' routes to the final are given in fairly substantial detail above, so the table adds very little. – PeeJay 22:57, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * What if they just need the basic match facts (scorers, times)? Then the table's perfect, rather than having to read through a block of text... Ը२ձւե๓ձռ17 08:56, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * If they wanted basic match facts then that's what UEFA Champions League 2008–09, UEFA Champions League 2008–09 group stage and UEFA Champions League 2008–09 knockout stage are for. – PeeJay 10:42, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, if you want the article into a feature article, then add it. Raymond Giggs 11:22, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think that not having this table will prevent this article from reaching FA status. – PeeJay 12:10, 23 May 2009 (UTC)


 * The whole "route to the final" section is much too long. This has come up before; see Talk:2007 UEFA Champions League Final and subsequent sections of that Talk: page, and Featured article review/2007 UEFA Champions League Final/archive1, and the current 2007 UEFA Champions League Final. This article should be changed to be like that. Some others are similar, e.g. 2005 UEFA Champions League Final and 2006 UEFA Champions League Final. Some are not, e.g. 2004 UEFA Champions League Final and 2008 UEFA Champions League Final.  If extra detail about earlier matches is worth adding, add it to the article about the earlier matches, not the article about this match. jnestorius(talk)
 * I don't entirely disagree with that, tbh. The description after the group stage is probably a bit too in-detail, but I just started writing and couldn't stop. Seemed like a reasonable level of detail at the time, tbh. – PeeJay 10:19, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * There's a natural tendency to write differently about future events, such as in the buildup to a match. Encyclopedias [like most things] work best from hindsight, where the style of presentation is quite different. Now that this event is past rather than future, this becomes more obvious. jnestorius(talk) 13:33, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

here comes the stab

 * Inquiry into fan stabbing report "The Foreign Office has said it is investigating reports that a Manchester United fan has been stabbed in Rome ahead of the Champions League final."
 * Why is there buttock stabbing in Rome? "A rival fan is stabbed at nearly every Roma game but it only hits the headlines when foreign fans are attacked at a game like the Champions League final." Nanonic (talk) 11:07, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Post-match?
Would it be useful to add a "Post-match" section giving a precis of how the result was reported in both countries, comments from the managers and others on the result and the varying celebrations and incidents that followed? Nanonic (talk) 09:16, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm in the process of writing such a section, but bear with me as I'm trying to revise for my final exam of the year at the same time. – PeeJay 10:11, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Well good luck with both :D Nanonic (talk) 10:12, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

FA?
This looks ready for FA now. Obviously I can't nominate it since I'm not a major contributor. Spiderone 18:37, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * You can nominate the article if you want. I'll keep an eye on the FAC discussion. I was planning on nominating it myself, but I was waiting until I could afford to buy the DVD of the match, so that I could properly reference the match summary with timestamps. I could also use a bit of a hand with alt text. – PeeJay 19:36, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Well as the creator and one of the major contributors to this article I dont think its ready yet. Still needs finesse in my opinion.--Vintagekits (talk) 19:40, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * "Finesse"? How do you mean? – PeeJay 20:30, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I just seems to have a stutting quality to the prose and lacks a flowing readability. Dont get me wrong the article is technically bang on - there just seems like there is something missing. You own the article anyway so I am sure you know what I mean!--Vintagekits (talk) 07:22, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Now let's not start saying things we can't take back. I am well aware that no one "owns" the articles on Wikipedia, so that comment was completely unnecessary. Anyway, if you could point out specific examples, maybe we could work together to fix them. – PeeJay 07:55, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

world wide more tv-viewers than super bowl
http://www.spiegel.de/sport/sonst/0,1518,688476,00.html
 * according to Spiegel 2009 Champions league final hab more viewers (world wide) than the super bowl of the same year, and was the most watched single sport event in that year —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.43.149.150 (talk) 08:18, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the link, Mr Anonymous :) – PeeJay 14:34, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

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