Talk:2010 Baseball Hall of Fame balloting/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Nosleep  ( Talk  ·  Contribs ) 21:44, 1 August 2010 (UTC)


 * GA review (see here for criteria)
 * 1) Is it reasonably well written?
 * A. Prose quality: Let's see...
 * 1) *Elections to select players were held prior to the 2009 inductions; the next election for players whose careers began in 1943 or later is scheduled for the 2011 class of inductees, while the next election for players active prior to that point is scheduled for the 2014 class. Not altogether clear what this means. The wikilink in "2009 inductions" suggest that these choices were made before the 2009 choices, which is it a bit baffling.
 * 2) *The induction ceremonies were held on July 25, 2010 Multiple ceremonies, or multiple inductions in one ceremony? Either way, this doesn't seem to be addressed in the body of the article at all, so it's not really lead-worthy.
 * 3) **Removed
 * 4) *The BBWAA was again authorized to elect players active in 1990 or later "again" is meaningless puffery. On the one hand, it does nothing to help a reader who reads this article (because it's a GA) in a vacuum, and on the other, it's fairly obvious.
 * 5) *whose last appearance was in 2004. Vague phrasing. Suggest who last played in 2004.
 * 6) *a record low, besting the previous year's record of 13 Does a record low best a previous mark? Suggest "displacing" or "offsetting" or something like that.
 * 7) ** now displaced
 * 8) *which now takes place prior to inductions in even-numbered years[10], Not really a prose issue, but punctuation must precede the citation.
 * 9) *****Prose review is not complete. Much too sleepy to continue fine-toothing.
 * 10) *This committee is already guaranteed of one new voter As far as dated statements go, this isn't a terrible one, but it still could be avoided - This committee will have at least one new voter or keep the phrase as is but drop "already"
 * 11) ** Removed already
 * 12) *Mostly a personal preference here, but As noted earlier, Roberts died in 2010, meaning that this committee will have at least one new member when it reconvenes for the 2012 election process. I'd ditch the self-reference and go with Roberts' 2010 death means that this committee ....
 * 13) *It recognizes a sportswriter "for meritorious contributions to baseball writing". Quotes need conspicuous citations. If this is covered by [14], move it there.
 * 14) *On December 8 at baseball's winter meetings, Bill Madden was announced as the recipient. His full name was given just a sentence or two ago. No need to give it again.
 * B. MOS compliance:
 * 1) Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
 * A. References to sources: All links are live, which is good. A few citations lack publisher, and it should be easily available for citation 11, the Washington Post.
 * 1) ** Added publisher for citation 11
 * B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary: I'd put conspicuous citations next to the votes tables. It took me a few moments to realize these did in fact have a citation.
 * 1) ***I think you may have misunderstood a little. Citing every line in the table looks a bit goofy. I just meant a conspicuous citation for the tables themselves. Those that precede them in the prose are sufficient (if they were there previously, my apologies, I missed them)
 * 2) *Is there a citation for the paragraph directly preceding the "Managers/umpires ballot" heading?" It's not really contentious stuff, so a citation isn't absolutely required, but it'd be nice considering there isn't one at all in the paragraph.
 * C. No original research:
 * 1) Is it broad in its coverage?
 * A. Major aspects:
 * B. Focused:
 * 1) Is it neutral?
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) Is it stable?
 * No edit wars, etc:
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
 * B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions and alternative text: That image of Dawson is ugly as sin. All those pixels, and his face is so covered by shadow you can't really even make it out. On Dawson's own article, it's better than nothing, but I don't really think it is here. The Herzog pic could easily be moved up to be the lead image. If kept, it (and the Herzog pic) should have ALT text. File:ADawson.jpg could easily replace the pixel-y profile picture we have. It also has unsightly stray pixels, but they're not visible when the image is in thumbnail size.
 * 1) **Added alternate text to Herzog and moved his picture up. As for Dawson, the pictures are right on top of each other if he would be moved down (due to the structure of the article) so opted to remove the Dawson pic altogether.
 * 2) ***Well, the other option was to leave Dawson as the lead image, but replace it with File:ADawson.jpg, and leave Whitey (tee hee) where he was. Nosleep  ( Talk  ·  Contribs ) 23:42, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) ****I find that a much better idea. Added the Dawson pic and moved Whitey down.-- LAA Fan '' 01:20, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) *****Looks great. Not a glamor shot of Dawson like the other was trying to be, but my god, those pixels....
 * 5) *****Any chance at some ALT text though? I suppose I could have at it myself. Nosleep  ( Talk  ·  Contribs ) 05:33, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) ******I did put alt text on the pics, but I am horrible at alt text.-- LAA Fan '' 16:49, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) *******Hm, it's not showing up when I load the article without images. I'll take a closer look at it. Nosleep  ( Talk  ·  Contribs ) 04:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * 8) *(outdent) The parameter is "alt=" (lower case), and yeah, your attempted alt text wasn't very good. It should not simply restate the caption – it should describe the image itself. I've put in more suitable alt text, and will now pass the article. Well done. Nosleep  ( Talk  ·  Contribs ) 04:44, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * 9) Overall
 * Pass or Fail: Review not quite complete, but there's certainly some work to be done.  Nosleep  ( Talk  ·  Contribs ) 05:34, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * A few bolts left to tighten, and you'll be there. Nosleep  ( Talk  ·  Contribs ) 05:31, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) *****Any chance at some ALT text though? I suppose I could have at it myself. Nosleep  ( Talk  ·  Contribs ) 05:33, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) ******I did put alt text on the pics, but I am horrible at alt text.-- LAA Fan '' 16:49, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) *******Hm, it's not showing up when I load the article without images. I'll take a closer look at it. Nosleep  ( Talk  ·  Contribs ) 04:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) *(outdent) The parameter is "alt=" (lower case), and yeah, your attempted alt text wasn't very good. It should not simply restate the caption – it should describe the image itself. I've put in more suitable alt text, and will now pass the article. Well done. Nosleep  ( Talk  ·  Contribs ) 04:44, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) Overall
 * Pass or Fail: Review not quite complete, but there's certainly some work to be done.  Nosleep  ( Talk  ·  Contribs ) 05:34, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * A few bolts left to tighten, and you'll be there. Nosleep  ( Talk  ·  Contribs ) 05:31, 5 August 2010 (UTC)