Talk:2010 Jos riots

Religious difference?
Is the religious difference of the fighting factions becoming more of the story than it really is? I've heard that it is tribal (no disrespect intended - is that an appropriate characterization) and economic. The Hausa or Fulani people are the ones described as Muslim here, yes? And the Berom are the Christians? I've also heard that those who were killed in March 2007 were identified by language difference. The Hausa/Fulani are pastoral (herding) people and the Berom are farmers? Is this accurate? Are there any statements by the groups responsible for the violence?173.8.220.209 (talk) 22:34, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Christian/Muslim NPOV hullabaloo
The Muslims attacked the Christians. The Christians are not one's to kill for religious purposes. While that has happened in the past, this is not the case today. Muslims have been more bold in their persecution of Christians, as all ideologies and religions have in the past century. 24.206.247.141 (talk) 04:35, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * exactly. it says the cause has "yet to be determined" but that is bogus. Muslims attacked Christians.
 * http://www.newsobserver.com/news/nation_world/story/291565.html
 * http://allafrica.com/stories/201001180739.html
 * 99.231.211.103 (talk) 05:16, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * While this is very true, I don't think it would be compatible with Wikipedia's "neutral point of view" standard, since the general pro-islam populace would see it as Islamophobic propaganda. Scrape   doodle

You don't think much of the general populace if you think that. It's NPOV to state "Christians are not ones to kill for religious purposes". (Think of abortion doctors murdered) It's neutral to report that Muslims (not The Muslims) attacked first, if sources say that's what happened. 98.246.183.207 (talk) 12:55, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

The article ATM states that "reportedly started when Christian youth in the Dutse Uku area prevented a Muslim man from renovating his house burnt down"; however, the two articles cited after that sentence actually say that "said 22 people died Sunday after rioters set fire to a Catholic church...The rioting began Sunday, when the youths attacked a church, said Gregory Yenlong, a state government spokesman." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.200.22.2 (talk) 11:12, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * And the Washington Post gives both accounts. Do not remove sourced info and stay neutral.Cptnono (talk) 11:37, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

The article mentions nothing about the massacre of 150 muslims in Kuru Karama village.Also plays down the fact that, whoever started these riots, Muslim Hausa became a target of christian mobs —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pppaaaooo13 (talk • contribs) 06:42, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Stop making up stuff that you have no proof of. These riots are just simply Islamic terrorism and Christians are victims. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.144.177.83 (talk) 09:14, 8 March 2010 (UTC)


 * The two sides in the riots happen to be of different religions, but that doesn't mean that religion is the reason for the riots. Nigeria has a lot of problems with "settlers vs indigenes" and their rights to vote and own property in certain areas. Ethnic groups dubbed "settlers" can't vote and are denied some other rights. It just so happens that these "settler" groups also happen to be of different religions from the "indigenes". Religion is eventually used as a rallying point for both groups, but the root problem has nothing to do with religion. The media plays the religious angle up because it's an easy explanation for people who don't know much about African politics and history.religion is a base in this case, why attack people in the church and other people who are christians and not among the rioting tribes. rjhatl (talk) 12:20, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Who are these "Christians"???
"Christian" is a useless term. Were they Catholics? Were they evangelicals? Were they traditional Proetstants? That might give us a clue about why these attacks began. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.238.10.5 (talk) 20:29, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
 * In the eyes of Muslims all non-Muslims are dehumanized as Kafir. Please explain what difference it would make what group of Christians the attacked and assassinated people were.Xufanc (talk) 07:51, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * People shouldn't butcher Catholics or Protestants (that coming from someone who is less than polite towards Catholicism) but if you have a source that discussed it then that would be cool. Probably should add in if the Muslims are Sunni or Shia.Cptnono (talk) 07:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

It's called getting the facts straight. And beyond that, it is pertinent to the story. Catholics and more established Protestants tend not to attract as much hostility as aggressively prosyletizing Pentecostals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.238.10.50 (talk) 17:49, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It is called go find sources.Cptnono (talk) 00:18, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

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