Talk:2010 New Brunswick general election

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FYI, changed Kelly Richard from Miracmichi Centre, to Miramichi Bay Du Vin where she is running. Her real name is also Kelly Clancy King, changed that too. Nocandu1976 (talk) 15:44, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Someone should probably add Kris Austin of the People's Alliance as the fifth party leader. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.251.248.81 (talk) 03:28, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Discussion about the PANB and the Leader's Box
Thanks for the comments on the People Alliance Party. I think you're right; I double-checked, and I may have gotten a little ahead of myself. When (if?) they do become "official", I think we should add them if they become recognized by Elections NB. Thanks for fact-checking me! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shawnrouse (talk • contribs) 14:04, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry User:Shawnrouse! I just saw an article in the Times and Transcript that says they are about to file with Elections NB. Before that, I had checked the list of registered political parties on the Elections NB website, and the PANB was not listed. That was my bad!

That being said, unless they win seats in September, they are too minor to put in the leader's infobox (with Graham, Alward, etc.) Keep up the good work! Bkissin (talk) 04:41, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
 * If and when they get added to the list of Registered Political Parties, I think they can be added to the results table:
 * New Brunswick general election, 2006

But not the infobox with the leaders. That is usually reserved for the parties with representation in the Legislative Assembly (See 28th Alberta general election, Canadian federal election, 2008). Sometimes, when it seems like a party might win a seat (i.e. the NDP or the Greens), people will add them to the leader's infobox, but that's usually a point of contention to some people, because they aren't currently represented in the Legislature. If, however, the PANB does win seats in September (Which is not unheard of, seeing as the Confederation of Regions party went from obscurity to official opposition in 1991) then we can definitely add them to the infobox, but for now, it's too early to tell. Bkissin (talk) 17:27, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I understand your take on the Leaders infobox, but I'm not sure it's factual to exclude PANB since they are (as of today), officially recognized as a party by Elections NB (http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2010/06/09/nb-panb-official-party-status-221.html). If we start to pick and choose which facts to put up, aren't we distorting the truth?  In my view, it's not for us to decide whether or not they deserve it; you are either a registered party or you aren't.  In this case, they are.  You used the example of the Alberta election, but that page has the Wild Rose party in the leaders infobox, and they have never won a seat.  In any case, thanks for the feedback; I appreciate a good discussion.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shawnrouse (talk • contribs) 23:12, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I understand where you are coming from, and this is a common debate that happens on these sorts of articles. On the talk page for thenext federal election, there was a debate over whether to include the Green Party in the leader's infobox, seeing as they currently have no representation in the House of Commons. Each side accused the other of attempting to distort the facts, or trying to win votes for/against the Green Party by adding them.
 * As for the Wildrose Alliance, they are currently represented in the Legislative Assembly of Alberta, despite not winning those seats in a general election.
 * Today, when I saw the same CBC report that you sent to me, I added the PANB to the election results, as they are now a registered political party with Elections NB.
 * Think about the situation this way: Look at the articles for the Nova Scotia general election, 2009 and the 2006 Canadian federal election. While the Green Party exists in Nova Scotia, it wasn't added to the infobox of the leaders, because they did not win any seats. In the 2006 election, there were plenty of minor parties that contested that election, but we can't fit every party, like the Animal Alliance Party or the Canadian Action Party in the leader's infobox. Do you see sort of where I'm coming from? Bkissin (talk) 01:18, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for replying. I absolutely see where you are coming from.  I think I see the gap between you and I now.  You are using Wikipedia conventions of which I'm not aware (because I'm a newbie editor), while I'm just relying on what I consider to be the facts.  I'm okay with leaving them out if that's how things are done around here, but I'm not sure it does reflect the facts.  Even though PANB is a new party, they are officially registered in NB unlike the Animal Alliance Party or the Canadian Action Party.
 * By the way, I did a mini-Twitter survey on this question last night on the #nbvotes hashtag. It didn't get a big response, but two people (one NDP and one Tory) thought they should be added.  I'm okay with leaving them out if that's the Wikipedia way to do it, but I don't think we have heard the last of this question. I plan to add the PANB candidate names in the "Other" column on the page.  I'm sure you wouldn't have a concern with that.
 * Thanks again for the good discussion; it's great we can talk these things out. Shawnrouse (talk) 15:27, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

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