Talk:2010 Pune bombing

Orphaned references in 2010 Pune bombing
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of 2010 Pune bombing's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "ht": From 27 September 2008 Delhi blast:  From 2008 Assam bombings:  From David Headley:  

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 13:04, 14 February 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ Used the third reference  S Pat   talk 13:28, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

minor vandalism
I dont know the really date, but this article says 9/11 2001. Obviously wrong, can someone who knows the right date fix it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.7.184.127 (talk) 20:27, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

There is a reference to Will Ferrel in the first few lines of this article. Unless someone can prove his involvement I believe it should be removed from the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.38.251.22 (talk) 20:47, 14 February 2010 (UTC)


 * These two minor vandalism edits by a new user were corrected within 15 minutes by another editor. Boud (talk) 21:47, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

There is a alot of vandalism in this article, someone care to fix it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.7.184.127 (talk • contribs) 20:29, 14 February 2010
 * Two minor vandalisms were quickly removed - see above. But you're welcome to start a section to discuss more concrete points. Boud (talk) 22:00, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Map Of India
The map referred shows the state of Jammu & Kashmir as part of Pakistan. The map be removed/edited. Pyu.agrawal (talk) 16:25, 14 February 2010 (UTC)


 * You'll need to find out how this sort of controversy is dealt with on similar Wikipedia pages - there's no point restarting a Wikipedia-conflict that has already reached some form of meta-consensus regarding similar articles. Some places where you can ask for help:
 * WikiProject Jammu and Kashmir
 * Talk:Kashmir
 * though i'm just guessing. Boud (talk) 19:35, 14 February 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ Used India locator map (which is a featured image). That should sort out the controversy issue.  S Pat   talk 13:27, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Systemic bias problem
Here we have a whole article dedicated to just 10 deaths, but for the terrorist attacks against Pakistanis, we have just a single line for typically 5 to 25 victims per attack. Sorry for using bold, but the lack of neutrality is appalling. As for the difference between state terrorism and non-state terrorism and apparent moral justifications, IMHO that should be neutral or at least NPOV too. See the article on state terrorism if you haven't read it before.

i'm not blaming anybody - this is related to the known problem of systemic bias in the English-language Wikipedia. The numbers of people willing to edit individual pages for each of the drone attacks and to find "reliable sources" are much smaller than the numbers of people willing to edit a page on this one single attack. This problem also includes the subjective concept of "notability". In US/Western Europe and for the best-internet-connected fluent-in-English people in Indian cities, the Pune attack is clearly "notable", but individual drone attacks in Pakistan are not as notable because they did not get as much publicity, and did not kill any US/European citizens, and probably did not kill any young, urban, internet-connected, fluent-in-English Indians.

However, if anybody working on this page is interested in helping to overcome these biases, please go ahead. Probably a practical way to start is to start some individual articles on some of the recent drone attacks. There should be enough Pakistani newspapers online, and some others (e.g. South Asian) that consider Pakistani drone attacks to be as "notable" as suspected-LeT-IM attacks in India. It does seem to me that several of the drone attacks gain a lot of publicity. Moreover, the perpetrator (organisation) is usually known, with only an ambiguity between which US service is responsible for the state-terrorist attack - CIA or army or whatever. Boud (talk) 13:28, 16 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Boud: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan are no longer news. There's one every day. So much so that each individual attack is not significant to warrant it's own article. This attack is big news indeed, and is the first such attack in India since 26/11. I don't see any 'appalling lack of neutrality' --vvarkey (talk) 22:10, 16 February 2010 (UTC)


 * First such attack? in what regard? number of deaths? dig deeper and youll find no such credence to your theory. unless ofcourse you mean labeled so by the [sensationalistic-ridden] indian media, in that regard it is true. of course thats the bias to "big" cities in western india. (Guwahati being a small player even though its size is considerable and far more die in individual/annual bombings a year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lihaas (talk • contribs)


 * You're exactly right: it's the first such attack, as labeled so by the indian media. & on wikipedia we write exactly what the media says. You may want to read WP:RS --vvarkey (talk) 07:27, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree to vvarkey. -- GP Pande  07:43, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

S Pat  talk 10:01, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The "first attack claim is made not just by "sensationalistic-ridden indian media" but also by The Hindu, BBC and Al Jazeera, which I guess definitely satisfy WP:RS

Victims list
I think this list should be sorted by name.

Why in the world are the 2 foreigners listed 1st?

--vvarkey (talk) 22:14, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I created this list. I just listed the victims as they appeared in the source - Indian express - as you can see at the citation. I had no other intentions. -- GP Pande  07:43, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I really don't think it's a good idea to use the respective country flags in a list of victims of a terrorist bombing as if this were some kind of sports event. In sports events like the Olympic Games the athletes represent their country. Here, however, we have people who where individuals happening to be at some place where they were killed. While their nationality should be included, they are not representatives of their country, so the flags should be deleted. --Bernardoni (talk) 02:57, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Nationality of Gokul Nepali
The nationality of Gokul Nepali in the victim list is actually not ascertained! http://www.nepalnews.com/main/index.php/news-archive/19-general/4168-four-nepalis-injured-in-pune-terror-attack-one-dead-suspected-to-be-nepali.html --JovianEye (talk) 07:26, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

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Updates
TrangaBellam (talk) 12:03, 28 January 2023 (UTC)


 * The SCI appeal: fwiw, the most recent order is dated 1 April 2022, where it was ordered to [l]ist the appeals [] for in the third week of July 2022. So, I assume that the appeal has been decided but the order-copy is not yet uploaded to the portal — maybe, will have some ideas? TrangaBellam (talk) 12:25, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, it seems that the Court Registry in India exercises ample discretion in listing cases. TrangaBellam (talk) 12:31, 28 January 2023 (UTC)