Talk:2011 AFC Asian Cup

Patronymic names
I was doing some research/janitorial work for the Jordan and Iraq national teams and came across this page. The Iraqi goalscorer against North Korea, Karrar Jassim Mohammed, should be listed as Karrar instead of Jassim if this is patronymic rather than the standard last name convention, I believe. Does anybody know which convention Iraq uses? Icedwater (talk) 13:26, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

vandalism
The Japanese team's section in the table (group b) keep getting vandalised. protect the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.175.57.243 (talk) 23:28, 15 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree with the above comments that this article needs to be protected so only those registered users can edit it. there has been alot of vandalism to other sections too.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anderch (talk • contribs) 01:26, 16 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I did request a semi-protection. Kante4 (talk) 01:28, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Iran
Iran aren't guaranteed to finish first in Group D. They need to be removed from the Group D winner position. (Mirkalita (talk) 16:13, 16 January 2011 (UTC))


 * Yes, they are. Only team that can finish with the same number of points as Iran is Iraq. Since Iran won in match against them, they will be in front of them, no matter the goal difference. Hence, Iran is quaranteed to finish first. Nightfall87 (talk) 16:17, 16 January 2011 (UTC)


 * They are. Read the tiebreakers. Direct match is first. -Koppapa (talk) 18:46, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Yesss, you're both correct, I'm sorry. I didn't realise this competition has voided previous FIFA regulations on the matter. Mirkalita (talk) 14:43, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Then how come the Asian Cup website doesn't have Iran facing South Korea yet? It stills says Winner of Group D....MjrHalloran (talk) 05:05, 19 January 2011 (UTC) Chris

Pictures
Hi, please undo the pictures of veneus to the article 2011 AFC Asian Cup, we need them, please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.133.189.98 (talk) 16:23, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Slogan
please add the name that selected by fans like China: "The Rising Dragon" India: "11 Players, A Billion Heartbeats" Iran: "Princes of Persia" Iraq: "The Lions of Mesopotamia" Japan: "Samurai Blue! Top of Asia" — Preceding unsigned comment added by M3n1366 (talk • contribs) 19:38, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Slogan
please add the name that selected by fans like China: "The Rising Dragon" India: "11 Players, A Billion Heartbeats" Iran: "Princes of Persia" Iraq: "The Lions of Mesopotamia" Japan: "Samurai Blue! Top of Asia"

http://www.the-afc.com/en/afc-asian-cup-news/31923-slogan-decked-team-buses-unveiled-in-doha — Preceding unsigned comment added by M3n1366 (talk • contribs) 19:39, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Wrong Quarter Finals
I believe that Wikipedia has the wrong order for the S-F draw here. Matches Qf1 and QF2 are being played in reverse order chronologically to how they are coded by the AFC. Thus Australia, if they win their QF, will play the winner of Uzbekistan v Qatar. While Japan, Iran and S Korea are all in the other half. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.103.113.51 (talk) 03:06, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * There are two "official" AFC draw designation for the QFs, so Wikipedia is obviously wrong if you use the other one. They are exactly the same in effect, but have different numbering for the matches.  Both pages now link to the updated link on the AFC website (Nimabehnam's recent edits) while they used to link to the designations in the AFC's Match Booklet (an older pdf).  The new version is consistent and links to an official source, so it is "correct", but the previous version was also correct.  Hopefully, however, the new version will stop people editing the summary table and match list incorrect as has been happening. Jlsa (talk) 03:22, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, scratch that. You are right I think.  The updated version ASSUMES that QF1 is the first match, but there is nothing on the afc website page that says the first match played is QF1, it is (in fact) QF2. Jlsa (talk) 03:28, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Jlsa, I did not have a username when I posted earlier, but do now! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramsbobby40 (talk • contribs) 03:57, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing this up guys. I was in the process of figuring out who was right - AFC is very vague on something so important.Michael Sap (talk) 00:13, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Has this been confirmed with the AFC? The whole thing is very vague and it's quite surprising that the AFC's own website does not clarify the match order. Dbandit1 (talk) 03:02, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Rafa1985, 19 January 2011
Rafa1985 (talk) 18:22, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Not done: I don't understand why we would change those numbers like that. According to the table below the one you included, the Japan vs. Qatar game is labeled as QF2, not QF1, for instance. If you have some reason for the change, please explain. Qwyrxian (talk) 00:38, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Order of Quarter-finals wrong!
Please check on the AFC website, you will see that you have the order of Quarter-finals wrong... I'm pretty sure of that... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.165.128.188 (talk) 05:01, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Sorry...
Sorry, you're right! The AFC website wasn't clear before and I had the wrong information. Sorry for the inconvenience, thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.165.128.188 (talk) 05:18, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from FromEast, 21 January 2011
This images is mine. I want to add them to the article


 * about to be ✅ Done – HTD  ( ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens. ) 09:06, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Well... someone hated that format and switched to the less aesthetically-pleasing format that we have now. – HTD  ( ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens. ) 12:16, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Bracket
You guys can also link to the games too. See 2010 Major League Baseball season for an example. – HTD  ( ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens. ) 14:53, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅. Kante4 (talk) 15:02, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

KOREA!
Korea has won against Iran 1-0! Both teams did well, and Iran deserves a lot of credit. But for now, the victor is Korea!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.11.80.37 (talk) 19:01, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Semi-finals 1 and 2
Why is the semi-final 1 the second to be played, and the semi-final 2 the first one? -1969 (talk) 22:24, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Probably because the AFC expected Japan to be in SF2 (and Iran/Saudi Arabia most likely in SF1) and the arrangement of SF2 first better suited television audiences in those markets. Jlsa (talk) 22:39, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Quarterfinal order and semifinal order has been drawn before the event i read. So A1-C2 or so was known before the draw, but not which quarter final that was. -Koppapa (talk) 06:48, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * That is not correct. Dates but not times of matches were in the initial draw. The times of matches were chosen subsequently to maximise television audiences after the main draw was made. This is fairly standard for major tournaments these days. A1 v B2 was always QF1, winner A1-B2 was always going to play winner C1-D2  Jlsa (talk) 07:29, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Qualification map
File:2011 AFC Asian Cup qualification.PNG, a map showing the qualifiers for this championship, is almost impossible for people with colour blindness (i.e. me) to read. Please look at Manual of Style (accessibility) for some tips in helping people like me (almost 10% of white males!) to access Wikipedia.

Using red and green together in the one image makes it very, very difficult for colour blind readers. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 00:35, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Many, many thanks for such a prompt response. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 01:09, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Team ranking
Is that official? Then it would need a source. I doubt it is, as you can't just compare different groups. There is 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th. No more. -Koppapa (talk) 08:50, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

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