Talk:2011 Germany E. coli O104:H4 outbreak

Ban on Egyptian seeds
Hasn't the time come for an "Aftermath" section to start wrapping up this story? The blame-Egypt position is gaining more and more consensus, with an official EU ban on Egyptian seeds entering into effect yesterday. Right now, though, there's no place in the article where it would be logical to add a report on that development.—Biosketch (talk) 05:30, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

NEJM articles
The New England Journal of Medicine had 2 articles on this outbreak in the 25 August 2011 issue http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1106920 http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1107643 probably the best report to date. I just read them through once, but I have to read them more carefully before I add them to the article.

This article now requires a complete rewrite, since we now have answers to a lot of the questions that were raised at the time, and a lot of the issues are no longer important.

The important issues according to the NEJM articles include the unusual toxicity of the strain, and the novel molecular methods used to analyze it.

I don't see the point of the long list of the "Affected countries". Can anyone give a reason for not deleting it? --Nbauman (talk) 00:35, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree with Nbauman, the long list of "Affected countries" should be deleted. An accurate final tabulation of cases by country would suffice. --Zeamays (talk) 01:28, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Probably 800-1200 EHEC infections
Not E.coli infections. E.coli is responsible for app 80% of all UTIs and as such should probably be in the range of hundred thousands per year in germany though the source is very vague... --Bjotn (talk) 21:57, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Cause?
"A farm in Bienenbuettel, Lower Saxony, was announced as the probable source".

I wonder what did they do different there at that farm? I have seen articles claiming that the outbreak appeared because the feces were spread on the land without transforming it into compost first. But I recently discovered that with only 4 months before the outbreak, a group of scientists created a variety of E.coli, designed to be sprayed on farm fields:

''A group of students from Bristol University used a DNA sequence, specially created in the laboratory to change E. coli bacteria for the benefit of agriculture. This newly created micro-organism, entitled “agrEcoli” will be useful for farmers around the world. Thus, microcapsules containing E. coli bacteria will be sprayed on cultivated land. Modified bacteria was “programmed” to detect the level of nutrients in the soil, reacting with a fluorescent glow that shows the grower, if the area requires more fertilizer, or if there is sufficient nutrients.''  - 22 january 2011.

I wouldn't be surprised if the outbreak appeared because the farmers tested such engineered bacteria. Especially because E. coli is the most studied bacteria. I think its worth to investigate such a possibility. —  Ark25  (talk) 09:31, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

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