Talk:2011 Helmand Province killing/Archive 1

Discharged with disgrace?
The linked article, Military discharge, in the United Kingdom section, indicates that "In exceptional cases, officers may be 'dismissed with disgrace' ". Unless "officer" includes sergeants in the UK, Blackman was not an officer, so how can this be? 97.64.209.102 (talk) 17:17, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, when I wrote the above, I failed to note that I wasn't logged in, so my sign-in didn't work. Also, upon refection, I realize that a NCO is an officer, so my question doesn't really need an answer. Terry Thorgaard (talk) 17:39, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Undoing Special:Permalink/701416727
I have [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2011_Helmand_Province_incident&type=revision&diff=724918637&oldid=723891066 undone] [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2011_Helmand_Province_incident&diff=prev&oldid=701416727] because:
 * Since someone was found guilty of murder ("The killing of a human being ..."), that there has been a killing is no longer an allegation, but a fact, since it was "proved" in court (from the allegation definition). Similarly, our own guideline at WP:ALLEGED says that the word is appropriate for when someone is "awaiting or undergoing a criminal trial" – here, the trial has ended.
 * Footnotes 1 and 2, from the first sentence of the article, do not say "fatally wounded". Footnote 2 says "injured", and footnote 1 variously says "injured" and "severely wounded". So, "injured" is the most common description from the two sources between them (though "severely wounded" would also be supported by the sources, if people want to use that instead).
 *  It Is Me Here  t /  c  11:38, 12 June 2016 (UTC)