Talk:2011 Veranda's Willems–Accent season/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: TonyTheTiger (talk · contribs) 05:09, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

I am not an expert on cycling, but am a sports fan. If I can make sense of the article it will probably serve the readers. I will attempt to review this soon.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:09, 22 March 2012 (UTC)


 * WP:LEAD
 * Is there a link to explain the phrase "proactively selected", which sounds like jargon? --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:13, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Reworded for clarity. Craig  (talk)  23:46, 27 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Please use the term professional or amateur before cycling in the first sentence. --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:13, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. Craig  (talk)  23:46, 27 March 2012 (UTC)


 * 2011 roster
 * Some of this text needs to appear in text. I am not familiar with what is expected of this sport, but based on having done seasons for college football and college basketball, it seems that you need some text describing the teams position coming into the year. I.e., were they defending champions, a team on the rebound from a bad year, a team overcoming scandalous times, or whatnot. Mention why some roster moves were important. Were any of the newcomers expected to do particularly well? Had any posted notable performances the prior year. What about people who departed before the season. Who would be missed. Were any fan favorites, elite performers? --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:03, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Text added; tried to summarise the riders up as best as I could, although several had less than favourable results. Feel free to remove the table displaying the transfer moves, if you so wish. Craig  (talk)  23:59, 28 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Spring classics
 * Although "placed no higher than 11th in any of these races." is a bit more informative, it seems more normal to say "placed outside of the top 10 in all of these races". Thoughts? --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:13, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't mind either way; changed to the other version. Craig  (talk)  23:46, 27 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Fall races
 * "with Habeaux taking the spoils" sounds unencyclopedic. --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:13, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Unnecessary to the flow of the sentence; removed. Craig  (talk)  23:46, 27 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Grand Tours
 * This section needs to be merged or expanded. --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:19, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Placed in the lead, to link from other World Tour races. Craig  (talk)  23:46, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Not a proper solution. The LEAD summarizes the main text. Thus, if it is in the LEAD, it should be in the main text in at least as much detail.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:45, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, gave it a second attempt. I do realise that there is no references just now; this is due to me running out of time this morning. I shall add them upon my return later today. Apologies. Craig  (talk)  07:47, 28 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Season victories
 * Is there any season standings or rankings to put in prose as a description of the season? --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:19, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Most of the continental tours covered. Craig  (talk)  00:58, 28 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Postseason
 * Did the team lose any riders at the end of the season or in the offseason? --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:19, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes they did, and that has now been added to the page. Craig  (talk)  00:42, 29 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Other
 * I see a lot of sponsor ads on the uniform in the picture. Can you provide a sourced list of sponsors?
 * Noted some, as there were many partners as linked to by the ref. Craig  (talk)  01:30, 29 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I think the required changes are fairly modest. I will put this on hold for one week.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:23, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for responding to my concerns. I am going to Pass the article now.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:02, 29 March 2012 (UTC)